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| {{SeanWheeler|text=Well if we want this wiki to be comprehensive and cover everything about the Kingdom Hearts series, it would be competing against The Keyhole and Kingdom Hearts Unchained X wiki. The Keyhole was the part of this site that stayed on Wikia when we left in response to the new skin. It has a lot of our stuff left over. It's practically the [[Nobody]] of this wiki. And our coverage of Kingdom Hearts X could compete with the Unchained X wiki. What kinds of Kingdom Hearts sites could join this Wikiverse anyway?|time=06:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)}} | | {{SeanWheeler|text=Well if we want this wiki to be comprehensive and cover everything about the Kingdom Hearts series, it would be competing against The Keyhole and Kingdom Hearts Unchained X wiki. The Keyhole was the part of this site that stayed on Wikia when we left in response to the new skin. It has a lot of our stuff left over. It's practically the [[Nobody]] of this wiki. And our coverage of Kingdom Hearts X could compete with the Unchained X wiki. What kinds of Kingdom Hearts sites could join this Wikiverse anyway?|time=06:08, 17 December 2017 (UTC)}} |
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| {{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=06:34, 18 December 2017 (UTC)|christmas=Well no, not necessarily. I know what the Keyhole is, and the story of it and this wiki. Doesn't really have anything to do with what we're trying to do here, which is to move on from that and build each wiki up. The Keyhole is currently organizing article formats to align with its goal of being a simpler but still complete wiki. One of the biggest differences between this wiki and The Keyhole will be the lack of technical data which currently exists here. As for KHUX Wiki, the same applies: while we're going to be detailed, we're most likely going to not include as much of the details that are currently present there. Right now, quests and such link from here to KHUX, and anything related to story and characters links from there here (they really only cover the gameplay aspect in detail). You can participate in the discussion [[Forum:Project: χ (Key)|here]], where we're discussing what still needs to be done to improve our coverage of those games.
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| As for what sites can join, the idea originally is any interested ''Kingdom Hearts''-related wikis. We would become the one-stop shop for all ''Kingdom Hearts'' information and community, from fanfic ideas (KHFanon Wiki) to the detailed stuff (KHWiki) to the simple overview (Keyhole). I personally am open to including more than just wikis (for example, a news site of sorts, as we're ''not'' that right now), but for now, KHWikis are what we're aiming for.}}
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| :It's late/I'm not awake enough to truly re-read and comment on this...but I guess my thoughts can be summed up with this: I love seeing so many people gung-ho/on-fire about KH. However, as mentioned early, if more sub-component Wikis come about that does bring to question: what happens to us? Maybe I've just been out of the loop for too long and can't see the forest through the trees. Not really seeking counsel or a fight- just a concern from an "old fuddy-duddy." {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 05:17, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
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| {{SeanWheeler|text=Having an Unchained χ Wiki when we're trying to be comprehensive could be a problem. It's like there's an embargo on Kingdom Hearts χ. We can only cover χ as much as The Keyhole. And why is χ the only game to have it's own wiki? |time=01:43, 2 January 2018 (UTC)}}
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| {{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=07:11, 2 January 2018 (UTC)|TRON=The KHUX Wiki was started by someone else trying to document KHUX, and it was started and was covering more than we were at the time (at least that's how I understand it; I wasn't around at the time, I was temporarily retired). Rather than directly compete, the users here at the time chose to cooperate with that wiki. The site is hosted and sponsored by KH13.com, so it wasn't going anywhere, and we were far behind (and still are) to try and play catch up. So, that's where we are. If we compete directly, we'll lose, because we couldn't catch up, and everyone here who plays KHUX edits on that wiki, too. What we can do instead is simply find a place where our coverage could be complete without competing. I think we can find that place; it's not a them vs. us kinda scenario, and it shouldn't be.}}
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| {{TheSilentHero|time=11:44, 2 January 2018 (UTC)|cloud=As KSM said, we're not competing, rather we're completing each other. See, the KHUX wiki covers the gameplay aspect of KHUX in detail. It has pages for each Medal, Quest, Event, etc. But for Characters, Enemies, and Worlds it links here. So it's our job to cover the story aspect of KHUX and we're also planning on globally covering gameplay elements (so we'll have lists of Medals and Quests instead of pages for each one). This way both wiki's will cover the game. If you're playing KHUX and looking for information on a specific Medal, you should go to the KHUX Wiki. If you're not playing, but want to catch up with the story, you should go here. And with both wiki's linking to each other, it should only increase traffic.
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| That being said, I don't think any other game should get it's own wiki. The reason we have a separate KHUX wiki is that it already existed before we started covering it, so we decided to help out and put all the information there. As of now though, pretty much all active editors there come from this wiki.}}
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| {{NinjaSheik|text=Still, having two separate wikis covering the same game is a little weird. Is a merge between the KHX Wiki and us be something to discuss in the near future? Rather editing on two separate wikis, wouldn't it be more convenient to edit on one wiki instead of going back and forth between the two, because aren't we covering the same things?}}
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| {{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=04:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)|TRON=I agree, it'd be better if there was just one wiki instead of two. It'd definitely be more convenient. But, I highly doubt that'll happen anytime soon. Like I mentioned, it's partially a project by KH13.com. It's very unlikely that they'll let the project die.}}
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| Because of the online nature of KHUX, it's actually not a bad thing to have a separate wiki for it. KHUX is constantly updated so it requires tons of coverage. All that gameplay information would bloat our wiki, detracting from the average visitor's experience. KHUX is niche and self-contained enough that it really does not matter that the KHUX Wiki exists. It's not worth going to the trouble to integrate the KHUX gameplay content into ours (there's so many quests and medals and attacks that it will take forever) when there are more important projects to get on with. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:41, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
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| {{Chainoffire|time={{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 23:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)|normal=I agree with FM, especially since some info on the khx wiki will be incomplete, due to the limited amount
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| of time for events, medals, etc. If we were to have them together, it'd make our wiki look a bit more broken, whereas holes are expected over there.}}
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| {{SeanWheeler|text=Well, if the gameplay elements for KHχ are over there while gameplay elements for other games in the series are over here, it feels very broken. What happens if someone decides to start independent wikis for Birth by Sleep, Chain of Memories, Re:coded or 358/2 Days? Would we limit our information on them?|time=18:53, 4 January 2018 (UTC)}}
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