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<big>'''THE VOTING IS NOW OPEN. READ THE RULES AND OPTIONS INFO BEFORE VOTING.'''</big>
''Do not add votes yet, we are building the info first. You are free to add notes from previous discussions about the pros and cons of each option''
 
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==Questions?==
==Options==
''If you have any questions '''related to the choices above''', please post them below, and we will try to answer them and add the info to the list above.''
===ShoutWiki===
*One server, may not be accepting moves currently
*Ad-supported
*Several noted problems with speed reported from already moved-from-Wikia wikis.
*Monaco is already installed but will become a paid feature in July 2011.
*According to Dantman, the group who runs this is quite shady.


*<s>Who will be in charge of the Wikia fan-based Wiki? {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=6:42pm, January 6, 2011 (UTC)}}</s> - Addressed{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}}
===Wikkii===
*Requires small google text ad somewhere on page; location is at community's discretion.
*If one goes for the [http://wikkii.com/wiki/Advanced_Hosting advanced hosting]. offers the following benefits
** full ftp & cpanel access
** freedom to install extensions and to add skins
*Knowledge about server side control required.
*Backups are not provided by the host, backups are webmaster's responsibility.
*<s>Reported speed problems on Friday evenings (European time), otherwise good uptime.</s>
*[http://wikkii.com/wiki/Free_Domain Free domain] for popular wikis.


*<s>Will there be a new IRC set up or will we use the present one? [[User:Lilienne|~Lilienne]][[User talk:Lilienne|⌒ヮ⌒]] 00:47, January 9, 2011 (UTC)</s> - Addressed{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}}
===SEIWA / Kingdom Hearts DB===
*Independence from a wiki-host, allowing us freedom to code our wiki and stylize it more freely than ever before, as well assurance we won't have another "Wikia's Oasis."
*Already exists (user accounts and all), but needs to be updated
*Monaco can be installed when we give them the usable code (tfwiki.net has a version), already has monobook and vector installed
*The url needs to be moved to khwiki.net, but this can be done easily.
*One person is in charge of all software issues, so it is possible we would not have as much freedom as with wikkii. However, so long as they don't compromise security, the owner will install extensions and add skins as requested.
*Joins us with other large wikis, including the ever-expanding ''Final Fantasy'' Wiki, as well as SquareWiki, Chronopedia, and more, to benefit from our common focus on Square Enix subjects. (See [[Forum:Square Enix Portal]])
*Knowledge about server side control not required.
*No ads are necessary right now, but we can ask about adding direct Kingdom Hearts ads if we wish, or about implementing a fundraising drive


==Votes==
===SEIWA / Misc===
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (8)<!--A concept I have always been supportive of-->, Wikkii (7)<!--Sounds reliable, seeing as people have actually started using it-->, Tropical Wikis (5)<!--Sounds pretty reliable-I like the sound of the no ads thing. But it seems a little... eh.-->,  SEIWA - Other (3), ShoutWiki (3)<!--I'd rather not deal ith the shifty-ness >>--> --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 06:53, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*MediaWiki is a must.
*ShoutWiki (1)<!--Far too unknown & shady-->, Wikkii (4)<!--They seem like good hosters, but nothing spectacular-->, SEIWA:Kingdom Hearts DB (8)<!--A good freedom and opportunity to have an esoteric stem of Wikis-->, SEIWA:Other (3)<!--A nice option if done right; but so much can go wrong, it's probably not worth it--> — {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 07:03, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*We could implement targeted ads or a fundraising drive if we wish.
*ShoutWiki(2)<!--Too shady, also Monaco will become a paid feature-->, Wikkii(6)<!--They're adequate, but nothing that will make them stand out-->, Kingdom Hearts DB(8) <!--Place that actually centers around Kingdom Hearts, and is very convenient.-->, SEIWA-Other(3)<!--Well, it's sort of risky to try it... But if it was more probable that it would turn out better for us, then my vote would be higher.--> {{User:IceCreamRockz/Signature}} 08:36, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*Dantman mentioned that Narutopedia might possibly move, and that there is a small chance they could help with the hosting infrastructure.
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (8)<!--I saw the site ; it's very well done !-->, Wikkii (5), Tropical Wikis (5), SEIWA (other) (3), Shoutwiki (1) <!--Too much loading time ! >_<-->. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 09:34, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (1)<!--besides being shady, the Monaco-paid thing sounds very, very, bad.-->, Wikkii (8)<!--One ad for full freedom isn't so bad-->, SEIWA-Kingdom Hearts DB (8)<!--judging from pros and cons, it sounds good-->, SEIWA-Others (6)<!--Sounds good, generally.-->  {{User:17master/Sign}} 09:40, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (10), Wikkii (5), SEIWA (other) (9). {{User:Erry/Sig}} 10:27, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Other (10), SEIWA - KH DB(6), Wikki (1), ShoutWiki (1) --{{SilverCrono/Sig}} 11:03, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (0), Wikkii (4), Tropical Wikis (4), SEIWA-Kingdom Hearts DB (8), SEIWA-Others (7).--'''<span style="font-family:papyrus">[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:midnightblue;">Lapis</span>]]<span style="color:black;">Scarab</span></span>''' 11:06, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (0)<!-- Trust me; it's quite slow there.-->, Wikkii (2), Tropical Wikis (3), SEIWA (others)(7), SEIWA (KHDB)(9)<!--I think that's a good idea--> [[User:UxieLover1994|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]]<small>[[User talk:UxieLover1994|<font color="gray">Lover</font>]]</small>[http://ratchet.wikia.com/wiki/User:UxieLover1994 <font color="red">1994</font>] 11:34, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
* ShoutWiki(0) | Wikkii (6) | TropicalWikis (0) | SEIWA[KHDB] (8) | SEIWA[other] (9)  {{User:Pea14733/Sig}}
*Wikkii (4), TropicalWikis (4), SEIWA-KHDB (8), SEIWA-Other (8) - [[User:LevL|<span style="color:orange">'''Lev'''</span>]][[User talk:LevL|<span style="color:deepskyblue">'''L'''</span>]] 15:20, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki(1)<!--be a paid skin,This is Crazy-->,Wikkii(8)<!--no comments-->Tropical Wikis(5)<!--A link esay to remeber--> SEIWA-others(3)<!--terrible,simple,terrible--> [[User:DiZ29|DiZ29]] 15:48, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (3) Wikkii(5) SEIWA - KHDB (9) SEIWA-Other (7) {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 16:38, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (9) Shoutwiki(9) others (0) {{SUBST:User:Lssj4/sig2}} 16:50, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (8), Wikkii (7), Tropical Wikis (5), SEIWA - Other (3), ShoutWiki (3) --{{User:JFHavoc/Sig}} 17:24, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (1) Wikkii (5) TropicalWikis (1) SEIWA:KHDB (10) SEIWA:other (7) [[User:Lilienne|~Lilienne]][[User talk:Lilienne|^^]] 18:13, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (0)<!--If shady, probably not worth the risk-->, Wikkii (4), TropicalWikis (5), SEIWA- KHDB (9) <!--Sounds excellent if all square-enix related material can be compiled into one place-->, SEIWA- Other (6) --[[User:XIII Heartless|XIII Heartless]] 18:21, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (8), SEIWA Other (6), Shoutwiki (3), Wikkii (4). Being independent sounds the best. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 20:07, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (8), Wikkii (7), Tropical Wikis (5), SEIWA - Other (3), ShoutWiki (3)--'''[[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=black><big>Dark-En</big>]][[User talk:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=gray><big>igmaXIII</big>]]</font></font> 20:36, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
* - Kingdom Heats DB (9)| Wikii (8)| SEIWA - Other (7)| Shout Wiki (2) [[User:Synchblade|Synchblade]] 21:54, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10), SEIWA - Other (7), Wikkii (4), TropicalWikis (3), ShoutWiki (2) [[User:KeyBladeM|KeyBladeM]] 9:09, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (0), Wikkii (8), Tropical Wiki (5), SEIWA/KHDB (10), Misc (7){{Keyblade0Sig}}
*ShoutWiki (1) <!--doesn't sound like a good idea-->, Wikkii (7), Tropical Wiki (3) <!--not too comfortable with all the drawbacks-->, KHDB (10) <!--Hell yeah!-->, Other (6) {{User:RoxasNobody/sig}}
*KHDB (8), Wikii (5), Shout Wiki (1)--<!--[[File:Terra-Ansem.png|13px]]-->'''[[User:iZerox|<font color=darkred><big>i</big><small></small></font>]][[User talk:iZerox|<font color=orange><big>Zerox</big><small></small></font>]]'''[[File:Lea_Frisbee.png|30px]] 22:12, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (8), Tropical Wiki (2), Shout Wiki (0), Wikkii (0) [[User:The Three Friends Will Always Live On|The Three Friends Will Always Live On]] 23:26, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
*ShoutWiki (0)<!---I'll say it again, this farm site sucks.  PLaine and simple.--->, Wikkii (5)<!---Doesn't actually sound that bad anymore.--->, SEIWA KHDB (0)<!---You guys realize that Porple will have complete control, right?  That isn't gonna fly, 'cause he keeps a very short leash on his servers, I'd hate to think what he would do to the community...--->, SEIWA Misc. (10)<!---Yes.  This is still the perfect plan, as it would also save less fortunate wikis.---> {{The Inexistentsig}} 00:00, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA  -KHDB (8), SEIWA -Misc. (9), TropicalWikis (5), Wikii (2), ShoutWiki (2) {{User:As_if!/Autosig}}00:38, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA via KHDB (9), SEIWA via Misc (also 9), wikkii (4) [[User:Falcos|Falcos]] 00:48, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (8), Wikkii (4), Tropical Wikis (4), Other (3), ShoutWiki (3) {{User:FinalRest/Sig}} 02:01, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (8), Wikkii (4), Tropical Wikis (5),  SEIWA - Other (3), ShoutWiki (1) [[User:BlackSoulBlade|BlackSoulBlade]] 02:40, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (9), Wikkii (4), Tropical Wikis (3), SEIWA - Other (7), ShoutWiki (4) {{User:Galexgan/sig}}
*SEIWA - KHDB (9), Wikki (5), SEIWA - Other (6) --[[User:Thricewise|Thricewise]] 03:58, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (3), Wikkii (7), Tropical Wikis (1),  SEIWA - Other (9), ShoutWiki (3) --[[User:Vhehs2|Vhehs2]] 04:05, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*KHDB(10)--[[User:Hulon2|Hulon2]] 13:02, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*KHDB (10)--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 14:10, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*KHDB (10) - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 15:38, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*KHDB(10)--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 16:54, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10), Wikki (5), SEIWA - Other (7), ShoutWiki (3) --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}}
*SEIWA - KHDB (9), Wikkii (7), TropicalWikis (7), SEIWA - Other (5), ShoutWiki (2) {{User:CaelumLucisCaliga/Sig}} 23:21, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (9), Wikkii (3), Tropical Wikis (2), SEIWA - Other (2), ShoutWiki (2) {{KKDSig|1}}
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (10), SEIWA - Other (8), Tropical Wikis (4), Wikkii (4) --[[User:Arkasas|Arkasas]] 14:19, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
*KHDB(10) Wikkii(4) SEIWA(3) Tropicalwikis(3) Other(2) ShoutWiki(0) [[User:Jackdap|Jackdap]] 18:37, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (8), Wikkii (7), Other (5), Shout Wiki (3) {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 23:24, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA- KHDB (8), Wikii(6), Other(3), Shout Wiki (0) {{User:Darkheart3/Autosig}}
*SEIWA - Kingdom Hearts DB (8), Wikkii (5), SEIWA (other) (3), Shoutwiki (1) [[User:D.Dark.|D.Dark.]] 01:21, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10), SEIWA - Other (4) {{User:Dan da Man36/Sig}} 09:04, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10){{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:27, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10) --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 20:25, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (8), Wikii (6), SEIWA - other (6)  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 23:14, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10), Wikii (8), SEIWA - other (8), ShoutWiki (4) [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 23:19, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (5), Wikii (5), Other (5), Shout Wiki (5) "I just... don't know."-Cloud [[User:AROS|AROS]] 16:35, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
*SEIWA - KHDB (10), SEIWA - other (8), Wikkii (6). And so it is time for us to create a brand new world, one heart at a time.[[Special:Contributions/71.92.202.190|71.92.202.190]] 02:07, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
*SEWIA- KHDB (10) SEIWA ather (6)[[User:Roxas pwns sora47|Roxas pwns sora47]] 23:46, January 19, 2011 (UTC)Rxas_pwns_sora47
*SEWIA - KHDB (10) {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 04:21, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
*SEWIA - KHDB (9) [[User:Sapiro|Sapiro]] 13:02, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
*SEWIA - KHDB (10) --[[User:Master Vantius|Master Vantius]] 16:27, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
*SEWIA - KHDB (10) --[[User:Breaktheice16|Breaktheice16]] 03:28, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


==Vote totals==
==General info==
EDITS TO THIS SECTION DO NOT COUNT AS VOTES, BUT YOU MAY ENTER YOUR VOTE HERE TO KEEP TRACK OF THE CURRENT TOTALS.
*[http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal A general summary of issues we could expect to deal with during the move].
*The wikia wiki will remain at the top of the search engines for a while - we must work continuously at the new address for it to replace it.
*The transfer will transfer everything, at its current place. For best results, we would ask for people to stop editing while the dump is being made. Even the user accounts can be transferred, so all you need to do is update your bookmarks.
*We could implement direct ads through Project Wonderful (ex. Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep or webcomic ads, but they'd have to find us) or a fundraising drive (possibly with a raffle) if we wish.
**Some of Dantman's ad ideas:
***"a small block of Project Wonderful ads below the navigation box in the sidebar (2-3 ads high, 2 ads wide, small banners, maybe one wider banner at higher price), as well as a 300px ad in a right sidebar above an infobox area, if there is no right sidebar on the page then instead either a banner ad above the page title header, or perhaps in an island above the whole content area. I might consider making those banner or box ads project wonderful ads with a minimum price which fallback to advertising networks when there is no advertisement, which should allow a fair box with revenue coming from advertising networks but which allows direct advertisers who are willing to pay about as much as we get from the broad ad networks from an ad area to place their advertisement inside a page instead."
***"I've also tossed around the idea of a separate instance for pages in certain categories, like "Video Games", allowing for a directly targeted ad on video game articles, which could be an enticing space for a store that sells those games to want to take over."
***"A lot of different ideas have been tossed around on the Narutopedia and elsewhere and gone through my head; Play-Asia affiliation. Hulu videos (while I hate hulu, 3rd party sites that embed videos get 10% of Hulu's cut of the advertising profits from videos which are watched on the 3rd party site), various ad networks, Project Wonderful, bg takeover ads (not favored), partnerships with relevant companies, donations, etc..."
*Wherever we move, we need several editors to keep monthly updates of the database.
*We should take the opportunity to install bots
*We might look into installing a "User template" space.
*We might eliminate "my home" and replace it with a user-spaces oriented RC and a main-spaces oriented RC.
*We need to contact our current affiliates, and try to transfer as many as possible.
*All editors who are moving permanently to the new address should probably leave messages to that effect on their user and user talk pages.


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==This Wiki==
*The Wikia wiki will no longer need to have such strict standards, and no longer needs to be a rigorous treatment.
**The image policy would be relaxed to something like "no porn, no viruses", etc.
*Fan material could be added, such as information on conventions, prominent cosplay merchandise, or fanon like Dead Fantasy.
**This wiki will NOT merge with the fanon wiki. It will not be a place to ''create'' fanon, merely a place to report on prominent fanon. I.e., it needs to have gained something like the notoriety that Dead Fantasy or Dion Roger's Rinoa did. This could also include KH coverage in prominent places, such as Penny Arcade or Awkward Zombie, as well as coverage of major fansites, like kh2.co.uk or heartstation. These could be placed in a "Fanon:" or "Fan:" space to separate them from the official content, if desired.
**There has been a suggestion for a "Theory:" namespace, like the Lost and Heroes wikis. These could be essay-form or otherwise.
*Stat-only article, like [[Diamond Ring]], could be deleted as unnecessary.
*There could be a news section more like what the fansites have.
*Essentially, this could become a "user-written fansite".
*OR, if everyone decides to move to the new wiki and leave this one permanently, then this wiki will be overtaken by vandals, and quickly drop in the google rankings anyway. However, if someone wants to stay here and keep back the vandal, ''they should not just sync this site with the new wiki'', because that will hurt the new wiki.
*Any admins who stay behind would remain as admins, and more elections could be held if the community desires it.


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