Editing Forum:Placing Kingdom Hearts coded

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On most places on the wiki, including the main page, content pertaining to ''Kingdom Hearts coded'' is placed before ''358/2 Days''. This is based on the 2008 release date of the the pre-installed promotional side episode. On other parts of the wiki, ''coded'' content is placed after ''Birth by Sleep'', based on the 2010 release date of ''Kingdom Hearts Re:coded''. However, it seems like the official Square Enix position is...neither of these.

All official sources the place the game between ''358/2 Days'' and ''Birth by Sleep''. This is based on the June 3, 2009 release date of the first actual ''coded'' episode. This is most clearly seen on the [https://www.jp.square-enix.com/kingdom/archives/index.html official JP site] and the series overview in the [https://youtu.be/5isiZBQdufw?t=587 20th Anniversary recap], but this pattern is everywhere. For example, in ''Melody of Memory'', Key Scene cards are ordered by game release date, and ''Re:coded'' scenes come between ''KHD'' and ''BBS'' ones. Even the ''Kingdom Hearts Orchestra -World of Tres-'' program places the ''Re:coded'' song between these two other games' medleys.

Given that SE doesn't seem to count the promotional/demo episode as the actual game's release date – and consistently sticks the game between ''KHD'' and ''BBS'' – I think it would make the most sense to move our coverage of ''Kingdom Hearts coded'' and ''Re:coded'' to this "official" spot in the timeline. (Also, given the relatively small scope of the game, this wouldn't actually be that major a change to wiki content.) Thoughts?

—[[User:Aid1043|Aid1043]] ([[User talk:Aid1043|talk]]) 06:47, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
:We should follow the official order. I do have to note that in the Gallery section of the Memorial Ultimania, coded/Re:coded is placed between KH2FM and Days. But since most sources place it between Days and BBS, we should do the same (and update the release date as well).
:Let me know what needs to be changed, so I can let the bot handle it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

::The ordering of Game tags at the top of pages would need changing:
::*<code>|KHC|RCO|358</code> → <code>|358|KHC|RCO</code>
::*<code>|BBS|FMB|RCO</code> → <code>|RCO|BBS|FMB</code>
::*<code>|BBS|FMB|KHC|RCO</code> → <code>|KHC|RCO|BBS|FMB</code>
::Same for the ordering of games in world/character infoboxes:
::*<code> |game2=Kingdom Hearts coded |game3=Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days</code> → <code> |game2=Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days |game3=Kingdom Hearts coded</code>
::*<code> |game3=Kingdom Hearts coded |game4=Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days</code> → <code> |game3=Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days |game4=Kingdom Hearts coded</code>
::*<code> |game4=Kingdom Hearts coded |game5=Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days</code> → <code> |game4=Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days |game5=Kingdom Hearts coded</code>
::We might need to look at ordering the tabs in item/spell/ability infoboxes, but I'm not exactly sure how to manage that. —[[User:Aid1043|Aid1043]] ([[User talk:Aid1043|talk]]) 21:16, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
:::I think I have taken care of most of it, though there might be an infobox or tabbed table somewhere I missed. I do have a question concerning this, though. Look at [[Attack Boost]], for example. It's not in the original coded, so it was introduced in BBS. However, if we consider coded and Re:coded before BBS, should the Re:coded section be placed before the BBS section? And how does that work with the "introduced in..." sentence? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
::::I've noticed a similar situation with the Keyblades from KH2 that were added to RECoM, like [[Photon Debugger]]. I think it's a bit jarring to have the first section and infobox tab be what is technically a later appearance. It would be wrong to say that Attack Boost was introduced in ''Re:coded'' or that [[Bond of Flame]] was introduced in ''Re:Chain of Memories'', so maybe for situations like these, we should have an exception to place the remakes afterwards. —[[User:Aid1043|Aid1043]] ([[User talk:Aid1043|talk]]) 18:26, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
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 :::I think I have taken care of most of it, though there might be an infobox or tabbed table somewhere I missed. I do have a question concerning this, though. Look at [[Attack Boost]], for example. It's not in the original coded, so it was introduced in BBS. However, if we consider coded and Re:coded before BBS, should the Re:coded section be placed before the BBS section? And how does that work with the "introduced in..." sentence? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:46, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
 ::::I've noticed a similar situation with the Keyblades from KH2 that were added to RECoM, like [[Photon Debugger]]. I think it's a bit jarring to have the first section and infobox tab be what is technically a later appearance. It would be wrong to say that Attack Boost was introduced in ''Re:coded'' or that [[Bond of Flame]] was introduced in ''Re:Chain of Memories'', so maybe for situations like these, we should have an exception to place the remakes afterwards. —[[User:Aid1043|Aid1043]] ([[User talk:Aid1043|talk]]) 18:26, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
-:::::I think it's better to have consistency (as much as possible). On [[EXP Zero]], the lead mentions it's introduced in KHIIFM, with the first section being KHFM. Maybe that is a way to do it? Specify where it first appears in the lead, with the sections always following the same order? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:22, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
-::::::As long as the lead is clear enough, I think that's a good solution. —[[User:Aid1043|Aid1043]] ([[User talk:Aid1043|talk]]) 20:45, 30 December 2022 (UTC)