Editing Forum:Oasis

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We need this.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:38, 6 March 2011 (EST)

We need what? Oasis? What are you talking about? WE hate Oasis. It isn't a good look. Oasis was part of the reason why we moved. I always use Monobook on Wikia. And weren't you one of the people who hated Oasis? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 17:31, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Some people liked it, believe it or not. Also, if we got a hand on some Oasis coding, we could change stuff on the skin that made us leave, like the page width. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 17:39, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:EDIT CONFLICT: Is this some kind of joke? Explain yourself, Kryten, because bringing oasis back is a poor decision. The whole reason this site exists is because the content on the wikia-wiki was incompatible with Oasis. We have enough skins as it is, and we can't make the site 100% functional for ''all'' of them. Bring Oasis back into the picture would just screw us up even further. We'd be seen as bloody hypocrites if we brought it back. If you really want Oasis back, we might as well pack our bags and go back to wikia, because it makes ''no sense'' to re-install it after we bitched about it for ''months'' and then ''seceded''. Oasis is for wikia; if you want it, you should go back to the wikia-wiki, which could really use some attention. It sucks canal water over there. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 17:42, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

::@Lego: It wouldn't be the default skin. It would just be for those who really want it. Despite how few the numbers are, they are greater than zero. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=9:52pm, March 13, 2011 (UTC)}}
:::"because people want it" isn't a good reason. It's an excuse. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 17:58, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
{{KrytenKoro|Okay, wow. No, that is not why we left.

#Wikia ''FORCED'' us to use a skin that was incompatible with the majority of our content.
#We left because they were refusing to even discuss the matter with us.
#If we bring Oasis back here, it would NOT be the default skin. It would be entirely optional, like Vector and Roundedblue and Monobook and any other skins we bring in are (on that note, someone needs to set Monaco as the default skin).
##One of our main goals is to make this the ''editor's'' wiki, not wikia's, so if there is ANY skin that an editor likes, we should be able to install it so that they can personally use it.
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::::EDIT CONFLICT: @ Lego: How's that? People wanted Monaco. People wanted more freedom on the Wiki. People wanted a better and more homey location for KHWiki. So we moved. How is "people want it" an excuse? This Wiki is what we want it to be; it's driven by user wants. If they want Oasis, then we should oblige that. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=10:19pm, March 13, 2011 (UTC)}}
:On the subject: Falcos raised an interesting point on the IRC earlier: The sidebar links on the monaco skin (with no .css customization) display HaloWiki-related stuff, not KHWiki-related stuff. {{User:Dan da Man36/Sig}} 18:25, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
::EDIT: Also, do we really need Oasis? Won't it just take up space? I've not seen anyone express a huge desire for Oasis as of yet, but I suppose if enough people want it, then it should be included... {{User:Dan da Man36/Sig}} 18:33, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
:::::@Kryten I knew you'd come up with a bulleted list to counter my points :D
:::::@Socks It's an excuse because it doesn't explain why we need Oasis. That's what I'm trying to get here. Kryten opened up the forum with "We need this." Okay.... why? Because the editors ''want'' it? That's the key word here - <u>want</u>. Not need. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 18:29, 13 March 2011 (EDT)
{{KrytenKoro|
Fine. You know what? Fuck it. You guys can do all the damn work on your own, I'm not going to keep visiting the IRC and wiki if I have one group of people shouting at me that they want one thing, and the other group telling me I'm stupid for trying to oblige it.

I've had enough of this shit.}}
Bro, ''one user'' with a strong opinion is not a "group". And I'm losing the argument. Grow a set of balls, un-block yourself, and kick my ass. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 18:49, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

Okay, whoa, whoa, whoa! Whoa...Okay, that was totally uncall for. Seriously. I don't see the problem of using Oasis, just as long I still Monobook, I'm happy. All users should have the options to use whatever skin they want. It's fair to the one who wants it, right?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:05, 13 March 2011 (EDT)

{{neumannz|angry=Oh, for crying out loud, I leave for half a day and all this bullcrap happens?

@Lego: Well, of ''course'' it's about "want" and not "need". We don't even ''need'' Monaco, if you think about it, but we ''want'' it, because it's nice and convenient and helpful. But it's about having choices, and there's no reason why we shouldn't add Oasis, outside the question of "how many freaking skins do we really need to include?" And I'm surprised after AAAAAAAAAALL that talking and forums you didn't notice that our REAL problem with Wikia is that they're controlling and inconsiderate jerkwads.

@Kryten: Oh, for God's sake, man, don't be retarded. I still need your damn help with the damn Japanese, and I will bloody well unblock you myself if I need to. (I mean, obviously you can just reblock yourself, but, y'know, that's just silly...)

I apologize to anyone offended by my language.}}

{{17m|text= To tell you guys the truth, I'm quite used with Oasis already. So it screws up in Wikia-wiki, but just as Chitalian said, if the width can be resized and some modifications can be made, we can make the skin feels comfortable to use. The thing is, I'm not sure wikia will give us the code after all that nagging, criticizing, and cussing, so if we're really gonna add the skin, where can we get the codes? 

@Kryten: Oh, come on, we need you man.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I apologize for being selfish, everyone.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Are you okay now, KrytenKoro?}}
{{Asif|shonormal=Yeah, for a minute there I thought we'd have to use the Heartless Manufactory lol.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Well...Are all cool with each other now? Yes? No?}}
{{DTN|time=22:00, 14 March 2011 (EDT)|text=... well, that was a sincere scare.

I can see why you want to add Oasis--it gives our users all the freedoms and "appeals" of Wikia without their harsh oversight and control. Basically, it gives us the one thing that the KHWikia has that we don't. I'm all for it under these reasons, so long as Oasis does not and never will becomes our default skin. Our main priority as an encyclopedia is to present quality information in a professional manner, and Oasis has not, does not, and likely will not help us accomplish that goal.

However, Oasis is geared extremely toward Wikia's designs, with its boxes and sections for other wikis and contests Wikia-wiki. If we wanted to, we could "SEIWA-fy" it once we have a full SEIWA network.}}

Just jumping in here,

@Dan - We are currently testing the sidebar, and we haven't completed the replacement coding.  Also, this probably wasn't the place to bring this up... {{The Inexistentsig}} 21:12, 18 March 2011 (EDT)