Editing Forum:Music Articles: We Need a Policy

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{{DTN|time=22:38, 31 August 2009 (UTC)|text=So, I write this because that two new music articles got my head thinking. We have few articles of music tracks from the ''Kingdom Hearts'' games. Other than the two themes by Utada Hikaru, most of these articles are almost complete stubs. Just look at [[The Corrupted]], [[The Encounter]], and [[Happy Holidays]]. I think that we should create a policy for our music pages. We just have articles on random music tracks right now; perhaps we should create articles for each music track, or create requirements for a music track to be featured in an article. Please leave your input on what you think should be done!}}
{{ghostboy3000|text= Yeah I seen a video called let the monster rise about music...}}
{{DTN|time=00:21, 1 September 2009 (UTC)|text=This forum isn't about videos, it's about our articles about music from the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series, particularly its background instrumental music.}}
{{EO|time=00:51, 1 September 2009 (UTC)|talktext=Perhaps only allow articles for the main songs (Org. XIII themes, character themes, etc.)? That would be easier than having 100+ pages of stubs, don't you think? That would mean we would have :

*Sora
*Riku
*Kairi
*Namine
*Roxas

*Org. XIII
*13th Struggle
*13th Dilemna
*13th Reflection
*13th Anthology
*Lord of the Castle
*Darkness of the Unknown


And possibly more...if needed. Just with that list above, we'd have 12-13 articles.}}

{{yer mom|time=02:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)|text=Well character themes can be covered in each character's pages in a subsection (more or less like it's done in the FF wiki). As for which music piece should get an article I'm thinking iconic music, that is music that has appeared in at least two games like Dearly Beloved (can't think of another one at the moment). World music can equally be covered in world articles (but I'm not too sure about how much we want each article with music samples). }}
{{KrytenKoro|[http://devilmaycry.wikia.com/wiki/Devil_May_Cry_3_Original_Soundtrack] format should work for most of the songs on the soundtrack, and I can provide some images and sound files for that.

Songs that have special significance to the games, or appear on multiple soundtracks, should probably have an article. So, the opening and closing songs, and stuff like the Atlantica songs and The Other Promise, which appeared on the OST and Drammatica.

Character themes would perhaps work best in a "Music" section on the character's article. They are pretty much the same topic, so there's no reason to give them more than a redirect, unless, like with The Other Promise, they are used as game/trailer themes, like Sanctuary and Hikari were.}}
{{HOO|time=03:25, 1 September 2009 (UTC)|text=I agree with the characters having their own music section and the Organization members like Marluxia can have all their different songs in battles and such. 

I really don't think we need pages for all songs, maybe just the Utada songs, Dearly Beloved (since it's been in every game so far), and the Atlantica songs since they have lyrics as well. Some other inclusions might be Destati (used for commercials and trailers) and the two secret movie pieces (can't remember their names).}}
{{DTN|time=03:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)|text=Sounds good! So we need to get rid of some articles in the [[:Category:Music|Music]] category. Would you mind taking care of that, Kryten?}}

{{MelodiousNature|time=21:07, September 3, 2009 (UTC)|text=I've been editing and adding the new Music pages lately and also been adding all the Music Samples and I think this new system is a good format, But DTN or Kryten could you describe what's going to be changed format in as much detail as possible please. DTN or Kryten please could you please leave me a message here or on my talk page about the new format it's essential for me so I know what to do  for any upcoming music pages. Thanks again and we do definitely need a policy on this.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I want to take a look at updating the World infobox, especially the music bit. Do we want to have the music playable from the infobox (like MN did on my talk page, but cleaned up to fit better), or do we want to move the music info out of the infobox compeletely and down to a music section, where it could have discussion, as well?}}
{{yer mom|time=17:19, September 9, 2009 (UTC)|text=I vote for a music section, the music templates look a bit messy in the World infobox. Also, is there a way to make the template look less... wikipediaish and more kh-ish?}}

{{EO|time=19:25, September 9, 2009 (UTC)|text=Does anyone know where I can find a blank template code that doesn't belong to an existing template? I could create one in my sandbox and then display it here...if someone likes it, create a "Template:Music" page or something...}}
{{HOO|time=20:10, September 9, 2009 (UTC)|text=I just made [[Template:WorldMusic|this]] which of course can alter to look more KH-ish. I just made it as an example. I also agree with Yer mom and that it should have it's own section. The infobox looks a little cramped with the music in it.}}
{{LL5| just saying that let the mosters rise is from repo the genetic opera, i think music that is only in the kingdom hearts games should be in the articles}}
I actually created an infobox with the aid of KrytenKoro. Here's the link to it...I put it in userspace just in case...[[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Music_Infobox]] - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:42, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
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 {{HOO|time=20:10, September 9, 2009 (UTC)|text=I just made [[Template:WorldMusic|this]] which of course can alter to look more KH-ish. I just made it as an example. I also agree with Yer mom and that it should have it's own section. The infobox looks a little cramped with the music in it.}}
 {{LL5| just saying that let the mosters rise is from repo the genetic opera, i think music that is only in the kingdom hearts games should be in the articles}}
-I actually created an infobox with the aid of KrytenKoro. Here's the link to it...I put it in userspace just in case...Click the "Number Link" to see it.[[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Music_Infobox]] - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:42, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
+I actually created an infobox with the aid of KrytenKoro. Here's the link to it...I put it in userspace just in case...[[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Music_Infobox]] - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:42, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
-{{HOO|time=22:03, September 9, 2009 (UTC)|text=Mine is for the actual music not just information about it.}}
-{{EO|time=22:06, September 9, 2009 (UTC)|text=Yours is also just for the audio samples, though. Why not combine the two? Replace the image section on the infobox w/ an audio sample. And delete the "Audio Sample" section from the bottom of the box. Images aren't really needed in the box, and we can just add an appropriate screenshot later, in the article itself.}}
-{{KrytenKoro|You know those little note images that Crescendos make, or similar stuff in the Atlantica songs? Can we get sprites of those, or have someone make something that looks similar? I want to try to spruce up the music box. If we can't get notes, can someone just upload the Crescendo facing to left and right?
-Also, is there anyway to get the little "i" image to not display when the oggs are called?}}
-{{HOO|time=03:35, September 10, 2009 (UTC)|text=You mean like the notes in the corner? Do you want all of the notes?
-[[File:Swim This Way 02 KHII.png]]}}