Editing Forum:Move and Improve Drive

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{{Bluer|20:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)|Welcome to the Move and Improve Drive meeting room. I am Blue, pseudo-moderator pending this Wiki's facelift. Here we are going to discuss the changes that will be made to the wiki before it takes place. Therefore, we are not caught with sudden urges to make this place a FFWiki clone *cough*Underdome*cough*. So, please list down the changes you'd like to see made to this Wiki and we'll discuss it.

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==Suggestions==
;Organize all the templates (and in extension, make some that are needed) 
:In progress [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 23:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
;Expand the enemy pages with their in-game journal entries, their style of fighting, and how to most effectively beat them (in short, strategies).
:I will, I just need some ''little'' time ^^ [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 22:32, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
;Rewrite the help section so that it provides better help?
:This could be done.
;Get More Descriptive in the Keyblades section. [[User:Warku|Warku Irotnom]]
:In progress.
;Find 3D rips of the following keyblades - [[Crabclaw]], [[Dark Keyblade]], [[Diamond Dust]], [[Jungle King]], [[Kairi's Keyblade]], [[Lionheart]], [[Metal Chocobo]], [[One Winged Angel]], [[Pumpkinhead]], [[Spellbinder]], [[Three Wishes]], and [[Ultima Weapon]] (original KH version).
:Waiting
;Make three respective pages; each listing and describing Sora, Goofy, and Donald's abilities (apply to all instalments).
:I dare no one is crazy enough to do this, but once I found the suitable page name, I 'll start it right away.--[[user: NeloAngelo|Nelo]]
;Anyone a pro at Gummi Ship ? I recently found out that the gummi block's info is painfully lacking, as well as the attributes of *most* blueprint/models.
:First things first, I'm NOT a gummi ship fan, once I've finished a route, I'm done seeing it.--[[user: NeloAngelo|N/A]] 
;Fix up the Synthesis' items category.

==Comments==
===Leave it to us!===
I'm sure with time and help we can do this :) I would like to help with the templates, images, and the layout of the page. If I can catch up on my KH games since I hardly pay attention, I can do enemy articles too. I am sort of an Optimist so, who's with me? [[User:Azul81677|Azul]] 06:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)<br>
I'll be able to do some enemy articles once I get further in the storyline of KH1 (my file got deleted off my memory card) and KH2 enemies I'll do the articles for them, but not today. [[User:Hexedmagica|Hexed]] 22:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Same thing happened to me, I'll play through KH and KHII again, then I'll do articles and such -[[User:Azul81677|Azul]] 03:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to find my KH1 and KH2 disks and put the journal entries of all heartless plus a little hep [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 23:14, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Also I need a good site to find in-game pictures of KH1 and 2. Google is dah sh*t. If we want to improve articles I need it ^^ [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 23:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:KH Ultimania might be a good source for those. kh2.co.uk or something. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 23:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

you mean ultimania the book of the site? thanks for the info anyways [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 23:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:The website. The book is good too. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 00:00, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
What happens with the heartless that are in both games? I put both journal entries in different section or they share the same entry in both games? I don't remember :S [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:49, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
::Put two sections in thew articles, one labeled KH, and the other labeled KH2, got it?
[[User:Cloudofdarkness|Cloudofdarkness]] 23:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

committed it to memory ;) [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 23:21, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

===Marluxia's element===
Someone keeps changing Marluxia's element from Death to Flowers and back again. This means that now Marluxia's page is un-editable. What if some new kind of information comes up and we now have no way to add it? I think we need to get 100% confirmation on what the heck his element is and then get it straight with a confirmation link or something. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 13:47, 10 January 2008

that's because of the f*ckheads that keep saying that marluxia's element is death. Weapon doesn't mean element. [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 22:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Not neccessarily, but they make a good argument. Sakura petals do mean Death, as does the Scythe, but his Flower-based attacks may mean the other one. That's why we need some sort of confirmation. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 7:00, 11 January 2008

:In case anyone is wondering, I've changed Marluxia's page until we can somehow get confirmation on his element. I think it should stay the way I put it, just because we don't know if Pablo or if the Anonymous author was correct. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 13:10, 12 January 2008

What about:
"[A secret known by him alone]
The 13 members of The Org. as well as having numbers, have powers attributed to each of them.
Thus Axel was fire, Larxene was thunder, Lexaeus was earth, and Marluxia's flower shaped scythe was representing his power over flowers" from http://www.kh2.co.uk/?page=NI/CoMU? [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 21:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

: You know what? No one wants to listen to my suggestion because they think they're right? Screw it. I may as well just quit the site as quick as I joined. I guess just because I never completed Riku's story in CoM it means I have no idea what's going on. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 19:06, 13 January 2008

Was it something I did? I'm pretty sure thats the confirmation link... [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 03:32, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

:It has nothing to do woth you. Actually, that was the confirmation link. But before I saw that, I checked Marluxia's page again, and someone (I believe Pablo) had changed back to what they perceived to be correct without any sort of proof. I won't argue the point anymore, but I just got slightly ticked off that people always believe they're right with no prrof. Thank you XienZo. You had the proof. Kudos. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 19:55, 13 January 2008 (PST)

===Abilities===
@Nelo: Is not that hard to do the pages for the abilities of sora, donal and goofy. You just need the game ^^ [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
:Add: "'''And what level they are learned''". --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 15:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

===Journal entries===
I need someone to share responsibility. My KH1 disc is f*cked up so I need someone to put the journal entries of that game. I'll do the ones of KH2 [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 23:34, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

I think I can help with that as soon as my finals week is over at my school, we'll have a 4 day weekend, and I'm pretty sure I've got all the journal entries for that one, seeing as how I've beaten everyone now. Just finished Sephiroth. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 7:01, 11 January 2008
: In KH1, right? [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:42, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Yeah, in KH1. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 13:35, 11 2008

I’ve added a few journal entries for the monsters.  Is this the format we want, and is it set in stone? —[[User:Shidou|Shidou]] 02:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
:It is encouraged to do so. actually, one of the [[user: Hexedmagica|admin]] wanted to add the journal entries, but since his luck got so rotten as if as he's cursed, the journal entry is forced to be delayed.--[[user: NeloAngelo|N/A]]
::[[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Manual of Style]] <- look here. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 02:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Guys, I got KH 1 & 2 for the third time today, after I get my save up a bit, I'll do the journal entries. [[User:Hexedmagica|Hexed]]

: let me do at least some KH2 journal entries, I really want to do them but my cousin have the game and I really need to copy it! [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 17:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

===I apologize===
Okay, so I've made some mistakes during my time here. I've made a false accusation I would like to apologize for. Sorry, Pablo. This is the first Wiki I've been a part of, so it's not like I knew all this stuff. Second, the message I left on your page by editting, well, I don't know how to send messages properly. I thought that was it. Again, I apologize. I hope the members of this Wiki can come to forgive me, even if I end up leaving it. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 22:23, 15 January 2008 (PST)
:I don't think you should be so hard on yourself. I also made major mistakes when I first joined another wiki. Since then I try to learn and cope and as time passed, here I am handling another wiki. Anyway, wikis tend to be like that, disputes and disagreements will come and go. So, again, don't be so hard on yourself, okay :) [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 07:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
::This may be my fault. I shouldn't have talked to you like that, I was pissed but not with you, I was pissed from before. I never liked when a user go in every wiki, If you need help just ask me and again sorry, don't leave =( [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC) 
:::It was a bunch of crap in my normal life combined with my belief that I wasn't being recognized as a voice here. I won't leave, but I guess I'm gonna need some guidance as to how to message people, lol. Sorry, guys. =) [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 20:25, 16 January 2008 (PST)
::::It happens in all wikis ^^ [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]]

===My idea on items!===
I've been looking at the 'Items' section and would it be okay to have a single page describing all the items in each game? And before you start yelling about Wikipedia, let me tell you that all I'm saying is that we have three pages , one for each game, on all the items that that game has. I'm not talking about Synthesis items or weapons though, just the recovery items. It'd be much better than a bunch of stubs, I think-especially when the items' descriptions are so short. [[User:TheSwordofDoubt|TheSwordofDoubt]] 10:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:Item is not my game, and I'm still waiting a reply on the Gummi Ship section--[[user: NeloAngelo|N/A]]

===Item Synthesis?===
what do we need? the items for synthesis (which is ready) or the items that can be synthetised? [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:Both, I think. But if you could say which enemies drop which Synthesis items, as well as the recipies for the synthesized items and where to get them(the recipies, I mean.), I think that would be appreciated. And maybe all the Lists in the synthesis shops as well.[[User:TheSwordofDoubt|TheSwordofDoubt]] 08:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

===Feature article duration?===
How often are we going to do new Featured Articles? A month? Maybe we shouold change it every two weeks? That's what they do on .hack//Wiki. (I never joined that one, that's why this is my first one.) [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 20:31, 16 January 2008 (PST)
:Due to our conditions right now, I'm sticking to one month. That should give us ample time to cleanup other articles and possibly pick a featured. If the cleanup goes well, who knows? Maybe two weeks isn't such a bad idea. But then again, how many content do we really have? [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 04:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

===I'm confused!===
This conversation is getting long and confusing, we could separate it into categories [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]]

that's what I'm talking about ;) [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]]
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 {{Bluer|20:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)|Welcome to the Move and Improve Drive meeting room. I am Blue, pseudo-moderator pending this Wiki's facelift. Here we are going to discuss the changes that will be made to the wiki before it takes place. Therefore, we are not caught with sudden urges to make this place a FFWiki clone *cough*Underdome*cough*. So, please list down the changes you'd like to see made to this Wiki and we'll discuss it.
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 ==Suggestions==
-;Can you guys make a list article? Like a  List of all Characters or a List of all Worlds.
-: "I'm up for the job!" [[User:Kixa|Kixa]] 21:25 14 February 2008
 ;Organize all the templates (and in extension, make some that are needed)
 :In progress [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 23:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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 :First things first, I'm NOT a gummi ship fan, once I've finished a route, I'm done seeing it.--[[user: NeloAngelo|N/A]]
 ;Fix up the Synthesis' items category.
-;Merge the item's article into one, similar to the item synthesis page.
-:I don't like the idea of items scattering around therefore I suggest that all items gets merged into one article. Thoughts? Objections?--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
-:As far as I know we only have the potion article :S [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 23:55, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
-;An improvement drive for articles that are lacking & non-exist yet on the main page and vote each week for the new article:[[User:Predated|Predated]] 03:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 ==Comments==
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 I’ve added a few journal entries for the monsters.  Is this the format we want, and is it set in stone? —[[User:Shidou|Shidou]] 02:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 :It is encouraged to do so. actually, one of the [[user: Hexedmagica|admin]] wanted to add the journal entries, but since his luck got so rotten as if as he's cursed, the journal entry is forced to be delayed.--[[user: NeloAngelo|N/A]]
-::[[KHWiki:Manual of Style]] <- look here. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 02:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
+::[[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Manual of Style]] <- look here. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 02:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 Guys, I got KH 1 & 2 for the third time today, after I get my save up a bit, I'll do the journal entries. [[User:Hexedmagica|Hexed]]
 : let me do at least some KH2 journal entries, I really want to do them but my cousin have the game and I really need to copy it! [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 17:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
-Turns out I'm not gonna be able to do those Journal entries this weekend. Parents filled up my schedule. I can't get on my PS2 until I'm alone at home, and that's not for a few days. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]]
 ===I apologize===
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 what do we need? the items for synthesis (which is ready) or the items that can be synthetised? [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 :Both, I think. But if you could say which enemies drop which Synthesis items, as well as the recipies for the synthesized items and where to get them(the recipies, I mean.), I think that would be appreciated. And maybe all the Lists in the synthesis shops as well.[[User:TheSwordofDoubt|TheSwordofDoubt]] 08:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-:: The synthesis materials are ready so I'll be starting the recipes and that kind of things. Where should I put them? a new article called ''Synthesis recipes''? [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:40, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-:::Use the term the game use. If it's Synthesis recipe then go for it, if not, find out.. [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 15:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::mmm... Recipes for synthesis? I don't really know. I have the information but no name for the article :S [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]]
-:::::Is it the same as [[Item synthesis]]? [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 15:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-::::::I don't think so. I'll make an article of the recipes and when are where you can find them but I'll also make an article of every item that can be synthesized (in KH2 for now, when I find the other information I'll expand the article)'''EDIT''': how's [[Synthesis item|this]]?[[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]] 15:57, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 ===Feature article duration?===
 How often are we going to do new Featured Articles? A month? Maybe we shouold change it every two weeks? That's what they do on .hack//Wiki. (I never joined that one, that's why this is my first one.) [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]] 20:31, 16 January 2008 (PST)
 :Due to our conditions right now, I'm sticking to one month. That should give us ample time to cleanup other articles and possibly pick a featured. If the cleanup goes well, who knows? Maybe two weeks isn't such a bad idea. But then again, how many content do we really have? [[User:Bluerfn|Blue。]] 04:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
-:: For now, 1 month is good. It should give us enough time to fix out articles. Then two weeks is more than perfect! ^^ [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]]
-:::No one month is good [[User:Cloudofdarkness|Cloudofdarkness]] 23:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 ===I'm confused!===
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 that's what I'm talking about ;) [[User:Pablo618|Pablo618]]
-Good idea. Nice look, as well. [[User:Hibryd|Hibryd]]