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| I don't have the coding skill to be able to make it horizontal (the same reason why the remakes aren't next to the originals), but if anyone wishes to try, I'll be gracious. {{The Inexistentsig}} 03:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC) | | I don't have the coding skill to be able to make it horizontal (the same reason why the remakes aren't next to the originals), but if anyone wishes to try, I'll be gracious. {{The Inexistentsig}} 03:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC) |
| {{Chitalian8|time=04:00, 16 October 2011 (UTC)|neku= The ''coded'' heart looks crooked on my computer. T_I and I noticed that zooming in and out puts it in and out of line. T_I says it looks straight when he's at 100% zoom, while on my 100% zoom, the ''coded'' heart is crooked. Did you make the ''coded'' heart picture somehow different than the other hearts, T_I?}}
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| {{17m|text=Yeah, I'm having the same problem as Chitalian's. Also, maybe we should make the dotted bar on the left a little bit bigger? And possibly, the dots are filled with symbols related to the game, in a similar fashion to the Days, BbS, and 3D wallpapers (like a Heart, Crown, and Heartless symbol for KH). I also prefer to see the timeline in horizontal.
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| Other than that, awesome job you guys! Sorry I couldn't help more ;-;}}
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| {{ErryTalk|time=13:30, 16 October 2011 (UTC)|kk=Honestly, about the other wiki using our idea, I think they just came here and read that and then proceeded to use it because it's JUST fishy when we were talking about it and now their main page looks like Metroid's.
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| Anyways, that's besides the point. Now, as for T_I's hearts idea, I think that would work a lot better within a horizontal/vertical rounded box underneath/beside the main box. However I still think we should to stick to the (WIP) [[User:Erry/Sandbox|Rounded box for portal pages]]. It sort of fits there better.}}
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| {{Dark-EnigmaXIII|time=13:38, 16 October 2011 (UTC)|text=Nope, Erry. We had that idea in the table with Soxra for over 4 weeks, and I have our conversation logged if you need any proof. Sorry if we bursted your bubble with the change. We just changed it yesterday because Soxra was free to work. And I only knew about this when The_Inexistent told me on the IRC ''after'' the change was done. Nevertheless, I'll give the logs if you desire. That's all I wanted to say.}}
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| {{Asif|shonormal=Okay, ''this'' is the final draft:
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| <center>http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i443/sakuraban/Wiki-1.png</center>
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| And Erry, there's some drop shadow missing in certain areas of the top of the timeline. Other than that (and the misaligned remake hearts) it looks good.}}
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| {{LA|Vtext=As if!, this draft of the logo is perfect.
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| As for your character portal image... it almost seems like the characters are too big, meanwhile I can barely read the word "characters" at all.}}
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| {{SC|time=23:01, 16 October 2011 (UTC)|text=And [[User:SilverCrono/roundedblue.css|here]] is the 3D skin for RB. Feel free to implement it for yourselves.}}
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| {{17m|time=14:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)|text=It looks amazing Silversey, thanks a lot :D
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| Also, maybe we should change the banner, or will it be too redundant?}}
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| {{Asif|sho=I like the new look, with only two small questions (for everyone to answer):
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| *Should we replace Sora, Riku, and Kairi with the new renders of Sora and Riku in order to match the Kingdom Hearts 3D theme? If not, Sora's render needs to be updated, as it has a large amount of white space around it. I think Erry uploaded a new version that took care of that problem.
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| *Should we add the Dream Eater icons to the mix of symbols in the main banner?}}
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| {{17m|time=10:10, 18 October 2011 (UTC)|text2=Yeah, regarding Sora's render, can't we get one from the official website or something? Because, in comparison to Kairi and Riku's, the quality is horrible...}}
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| {{SC|time=00:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)|happy=Thanks, guys! Glad to see I'm appreciated :D
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| But yeah, both of Asif's points should be addressed, but I didn't make the banner, so Erry or TNE are the ones to contact about that.}}
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| {{Asif|sho=I updated the banner- copy/paste [[User:As if!/roundedblue.css|this]] to see it. Thoughts?
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| EDIT 20:11, 24 November 2011 (UTC): We need to get started on this again if we want to complete it. I can do all the images and headers but I need the approval of the header first. So, what does everyone think?}}
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| {{ErryTalk|time=10:25, 8 December 2011 (UTC)|mxtext=Can I just make something clear? I'll be working on the header. As if! can work on the logo if he so pleases, but I've reserved the header... that's all I need to say.}}
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| {{Asif|sho=Alright, opinions about the new look...
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| #I am redoing the text part of the logo. Sharpening it created artifacts in the image, which I am just tired of staring at. So, yeah.
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| #<s>I understand wanting Sora and Riku to fit on the banner... but squashing them vertically just looks bad. Also, Riku's head is cut off too much at the top. </s> I just wish Sora and Riku were a tiny bit bigger. Is there any way you could resize them? Also, did you edit Sora's image, because his hair looks darker here than in the source image.
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| #Why is the Toolbox header still off-center? Can we fix that?
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| #We still need to update the main page and make everything pink. I can handle the SEIWA logo; who will do everything else?
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| That's all I can see for now.}}
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| {{KrytenKoro|Organization wise, I've incorporated some ideas at [[User:KrytenKoro/Main Page]]. The OffSt template would need to be redone from Digimon links to KH links, and the dimensions of it as well, but I think it would be a good idea to link to all of our affiliates and official sites in a nice little box like that. Also, I axed a few features that seemed both redundant and...fairly useless, at this point, and I merged all the Featured stuff into one box. I would ''really'' appreciate if someone who isn't fashion-blind like me could fiddle with all this to make it look pretty...also, a discussion on whether that approach to the main page works would be cool, too.}}
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| [[User:The Inexistent/Main Page|Well, after walking around in circles for months, I finally made an attempt at this, and I must say that it went much better than I thought it would. I combined elements from my design, Kryten's, Erry's, the suggestions, and, of course, the original, into what I think is a very functional, agreeable, and aesthetically pleasing design. I used Erry's epic images, Kryten's condensing (somewhat), and my randomized expansion thing. I evened out both sides of the page, emphasized our content that leads to editing and exploring, and added the portals. If we work relatively hard, and work out the kinks and whatever else we don't like about the prototype, we could easily have a new main page for the new year.]]
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| If that is to happen, someone will have to:
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| *Make the portal images, and trim a bit off of the top of the welcome image.
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| *Make the portals (I can do this if I'm given a go).
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| *Remake the quote template (I can also do this, however, I'll have to know soon, because I have stuff to do for the rest of the week).
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| *The SEIWA image needs to be recolored.
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| *My randomized expansion template needs to be expanded<!---Ha.--->... I can do most of that, and it doesn't need to be done immediatly, either. It can be consistently added to.
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| Please, respond as soon as you can. I think a new main page for a new year would be pretty symbolic. {{The Inexistentsig}} 04:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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| {{KrytenKoro|Thoughts:
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| *The lead image is ''way'' too fucking large. Even with the browser maximized, you really can't see anything else on the page. Honestly, it shouldn't be much larger than the site logo. At the ''bare minimum'', you should be able to say the bulk of the categories when you first load the page.
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| *First and foremost, the "main body with small side-column" look has to die. That was forced on everyone by wikia way in the past, and it does us no good to stay committed to that when there is so much more pleasing ways to organize the page.
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| *The code for "Votes for Featured Articles / Past Featured Articles" needs to be fixed so that it displays on one line. It might be simpler to simply label them as "Past featured" and "Vote!".
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| *The portal images should be samples of actual related content, not just words. Honestly, if we have any good sketchers still active, it would be good to have some omake-style art to fit in there. Like, for enemies we have a little Shadow nomming on a heart.
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| Suggestions:
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| *Do we really need the spoiler notice?
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| *The sitemap in the lead should be combined with the Traverse Town, Helping Out, and SEIWA within an OffSt-type template. It's all the same kind of stuff, and it clogs up the page and is not intuitively placed. The OffSt template should have a "Wiki Map", "Official Sites", and "Affiliates" tab. Of "Helping Out", I really think only the "create an article" box is worth keeping, and it should be placed within the wiki map tab along with Traverse Town.
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| *If we're not using Quote of the moment, than "Did you know" should take its place, and the Featured User should be combined with it in a main "featured content" box. Throwing featured user all the way at the end there is not intuitive, and it diminishes the attention to that section. All of this stuff is basically "look at our shit!", so it should be placed together.
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| *"Can you expand this article" should be fairly small, and next to Mirage Arena. I would place them both at the bottom of the page (which would be trimmed of a lot of the fluff.
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| *The Trinity Archives box absolutely doesn't need to be that large. Using the News template I added would honestly work much, much better, and it should go with the Mirage Arena and "can you help".
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| *The timeline is basically a directory, and doesn't need to be charted as such. Honestly, a small and quick vertical list of the games in chronological order would work. Also, the FMs aren't "link-stories", so they should be on the same line as the main game.
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| Otherwise, it looks pretty good. The main thing is that we need to just get out of "designing to wikia's old requirements" and do what makes the most sense.
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| I've made some modifications (I'll leave the image resizing to Erry)... if we can actually gather enough content for "On this day", we can throw into the top of the Trinity Archives later. I also couldn't get the games to align on the timeline. When I originally had it vertical, I could easily align them... now, however, I have no idea. And if someone would like to improve the tabs at the bottom, I would appreciate it, because tabs aren't my strongest area. {{The Inexistentsig}} 18:02, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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| Can I please get an example of "omake-style art"? Because I'm not getting anything from googling "omake". I made [http://i42.tinypic.com/4vidcg.jpg this] and I doubt it's omake-style art. Anyways, I fixed the OffSt template, did a little retouching to the Roundedblue theme that needs replacing on Mediawiki: namespace (any chance someone can get access to that who's not admin?) and am waiting on what to do on this situation of the portals. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 23:03, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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| :[http://static.tumblr.com/4x5qifh/WyClwf1op/birth-by-sleep.jpg The bottom part of this] would count. Or [http://www.khwiki.net/File:KH_Manga_4b.png this]. Basically, a mini-scene.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I'll go consult TNE about that, she could probably draw much better than me. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 08:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| So, any complaints about the logo? I love the way the skin looks, but being nit-picky there are 2 tiny issues I see:
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| #"Toolbox" is still off-center.
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| #Why do I feel like Sora's image is a little bit dark?
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| #Can someone please edit the main skin to make broken links red?
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| Yeah, that's all. --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 15:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| Using my custom css will fix those broken links, however that's because I was working on it to better fit my css, but that'll all be fixed by the time someone changes it in the Mediawiki namespace. Sora's image is a little bit dark because of the black gradient overlaying to make a smooth transition from patterned/colored to black. Toolbox is not off-center, you've just not cleared your cache. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 16:26, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| :Hey, can you make the pink for the tabs a little lighter. Because it's really hard to read them. --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 16:41, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| ::I'll just make it white to fit better with the rest of the theme. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 17:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Now that I'm off the custom CSS, the broken links aren't red anymore. Erry? --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 18:40, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Yeah, they should be fixed. Just shift+refresh to update your cache if they're showing red links. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 18:46, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| {{SilverCrono|time=19:35, 31 December 2011 (UTC)|text=Okay so now <s>Monaco</s> Monobook is <s>pimped</s> KH3D'd out. Thanks to me<small>and Erry</small>.}}
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| :::::I refreshed it. The red links in RoundedBlue are still blue. Help? --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 19:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::Can you take a screenshot? {{User:Erry/Sig}} 19:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 20:19, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| :I've left a message on the Roundedblue .css page to have a removal of that code {{User:Erry/Sig}} 20:27, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| I've noticed that on some pages, (with Rounded Blue), the Images for "Search" and "Go" refuse to load, and the error images cover up the tabs for "Edit" and "History," making it impossible to click these tabs. Is this just me? (reference: [[KHWiki:Featured articles/Santa Form|click me!]]) {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 23:45, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| :Error images? Also, removing that code just made the skin a lot worse so please bear with me as I try to get rights to get into the Mediawiki namespace. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 23:49, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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| ::You know, the empty, clear box with a small picture of a sheet of paper in the middle? {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 15:16, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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| ::Um, what happened to "Featured User"? It's already January, y'know. [[User:UxieLover1994|UxieLover1994]] 05:10, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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| In regarding roundedblue: I have done all I can to repair the links but it just doesn't seem to want to work so I'm going to leave it now and see if I can find someone who can help repair it. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 01:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
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| {{KrytenKoro|HOLY CRAP GUYS LET'S GET THIS DONE.}}
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| Hey guys, look what I did: http://www.khwiki.net/User:Erry/Main_Page {{User:Erry/Sig}} 12:01, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
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