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| {{Maggosh|nathan=I swear, if ''this'' Final Mix doesn't come overseas...}} | | {{Maggosh|nathan=I swear, if ''this'' Final Mix doesn't come overseas...}} |
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| {{J.Severe|text=Well... I've never been more disgusted in my entire life. (sigh)... If only this series wasn't so dang awesome I would've left quite a long time ago. It still baffles me why they just can't make the same thing for everyone, or release the Final Mix for both countries. I'm going to send Tetsuya Nomura a stern fax...}}
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| Man you have got to be F-ing kidding me!!! I mean I have been waiting patiently for Birth by Sleep for five years, spoiled myself aout of jealousy and envy of the Japanese, and right when I finally get it,before I'm even done with Aqua's story, BLAM!!! They go and anounce that they couldn't stand watching us getting atleast three extras and so they have compenste by giving themselves all of our extras and then add a bajillion more! I mean I can understand getting our secret boss, but is it really neccessary to give them like, what, +two more! What is the point of Monstro, unless you're going to actually go through with making Pinochio's world part of the game. And the irony of it all is that they might actually give Ven his original secret ending Keyblade, and that was what I have been striving for for our version, and we didn't get it! It makes me so MAD!!! I swear, Nomura, one of these days... Still, dispite my anger, I'm getting it anyway, after all, I should've seen this one comeing. I just hope that the only new scenes they get are in their new boss battles, because I hate hearing our NA voices w/ their Japanes text but hearing nothing but silence when they get a new scene! And if not, they better have those new scenes english dubbed, because they owe us that much! I know I sound unreasonable, but shouldn't I be!? Shouldn't we all!? But I promise, that if the rumor of Ven getting his Secret Ending Keyblade is legit, then I guess that will be enough to calm me down. I guess I do need a new thing to save my money on now anyway. [[User:AROS|AROS]] 17:42, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{LapisScarab|time=04:26, September 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=And... 1000 FACEPALMS! Seriously, get over it people. This isn't like what happened with KHIIFM, where we missed out on well over a dozen new bosses and features. This is a couple of new things they're adding (I for one am excited that now there's an excuse for us to get to see more--Armored Eraqus apparently, new secret ending, etc.). So Nomura lied, so what? It isn't the first time he's misled us in regards to the series. Remamber how those three knights were totally new characters? What? The brown-haired one is Xehanort? Pfft! You're seeing things. Just sit back and enjoy the new cutscenes, fandubbed for your confusion.}}
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| {{KrytenKoro|emotion=hungry|So....yeah, it's definitely Eraqus.
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| Holy balls, that's pretty.}}
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| {{Keyblade0|time= 00:03, September 26, 2010|text= Wow... that's cool...
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| <small>so... so shiny...</small>
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| <small><small> so armor-y...</small></small>}}
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| {{Xabryn|text=I know that it is pretty obvious that it is Eraqus but do we have any confimation? If we don't have wouldn't it be speculation to say that it is Eraqus?}}
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| {{KKD|time=00:26, September 26, 2010 (UTC)|link=It's safe to say it's Eraqus, I think. All signs point to him, and I reeally don't see anything otherwise. <small> I AM LOVING THIS LINK TALK BUBBLE</small>}}
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| {{LapisScarab|time=00:30, September 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=We should wait before saying that he is Eraqus in the actual articles. Simply holding the Keyblade isn't quite enough proof. On a less serious note, his armor looks friggin' awesome. Now I'm curious as to what Xehanort's armor looked like.}}
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| {{Maggosh|YMX=The trailer [http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/bbsfm/trailer.html is online.] As in, officially.}}
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| {{KrytenKoro|Maybe they just have a berserk coloration and I forgot, but the Wild Bruiser is black instead of brown in this. I think we might be getting recolored enemies again.}}
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| Also, there is something else I noticed about five minutes ago on the web site's HQ version of the trailer. Now, you have to pause and rewind a gazillion times to see this, but if you look closely, the first instance we see Terra (the scene where he saves Ven from Eraqus), HE IS HOLDING VEN'S KEYBLADE (WAYWARD WIND)!!! How weird is that!? So I guess thiss means that your character will be able to wield the Keyblades of the other two (Terra -> Ven & Aqua, Ven -> Terra & Aqua, and Aqua -> Terra & Ven)? Well, maybe they altered the cutscene and had Ven get his Keyblade knocked out of his hand and Terra uses it to defend him before he summons his own. Whatever it is, I hope it is explained, but I am still pushing for Ven getting his origional KH2FM+ Keyblade, I CAN NOT STRESS IT ENOUGH!!! Still, lets hope for the best, because this game won't be region locked and we might even keep their better WLAN signal (the network-wide one, not our sucky 60-foot-radius one) for Mirage Arena (I still haven't found anyone to multi-play with). The more additions, the better I guess. [[User:AROS|AROS]] 17:24, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
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| ...The Wayward Wind ''is'' the Keyblade he used in the secret movie.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 13:38, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| We can't be sure about that. We thought the same thing about the earthshaker and rainfell didn't we?--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 23:42, September 28, 2010 (UTC)
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| :No. There were massive aesthetic changes between the Secret Movie Keyblades and Earthshaker and Rainfell. On the other hand, Ven's keyblade looks nearly the exact same. I say nearly because I can't see any differences, but there still may be. {{KKDSig|1}}
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| ::No, we never did. We thought they were the Ends of the Earth and the Stormfall, and those even appeared within KH2FM in the normal game, and retained the same design in KHBBS, plus keychains.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:39, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::{{ErryTalk|zexiontext=Well, in reply to the assumption of Terra using Ven's keyblade, I think it was only a mesh glitch where they placed Ven's keyblade instead of Terra's accidentally, either that or they get the option to use it.}}
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| Okay, returning to my whole Wayward Wind "rant-'n'-rave", I've been hearing most of the things people are saying/speculating about the FM trailer, and as far as Monstro and Eraqus I'm pretty excited but since all I care about is the damn freaking Keyblade (sorry for the "intense" language, well it is for me, I am just really focused on this), so I tend to focus on that stuff more. Anyway, I've looked and listened, and as far as Ven's Keyblade goes, it sounds like a lot of people are speculating that "Ven gets a 'new' Keyblade that looks just like his original (Wayward Wind) but slightly darker in color". Now I have read this same thing on several Kingdom Hearts fan communities (like KH Ultimania, KH Network, etc.) and I have looked at the trailer a bazzilion times and I finally got the nerve to ask myself "Where the heck does it show/say that!?" I've seen the trailer and as far as I can tell from it Ven was holding his starting Keyblade and there was nothing different about it. But what do I know? I assumed everyone was talking about the scene where he said "Friends forever" at the Keyblade Graveyard, but maybe everyone was talking about the other scenes with Ven fighting and took really good care in observing. Either way, original or not, new or not, redesigned Wayward Wind or not (well scratch the last "not"), I just hope that they give Ven his Wayward Wind redesigned to look more like it did in the secret ending, because I feel so disapointed, excited, and confused at the same time![[User:AROS|AROS]] 21:40, October 12, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==From ''[[Talk:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix]]''== | | ==From ''[[Talk:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix]]''== |
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| === Any idea on the contents:"P === | | === Any idea on the contents:"P === |
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| {{DeadManCandyLand|time=Someone's gotta whip him into shape.|text=anyone know what might be in kingdom hearts birth by sleep final mix}} | | {{DeadManCandyLand|time=Someone's gotta whip him into shape.|text=anyone know what might be in kingdom hearts birth by sleep final mix}} |
| {{17m|time=13:11, September 22, 2010 (UTC)|text= They say there will be a Monstro stage for Mirage Arena, a new secret movie, and a boss fight with armored Eraqus. But I expect some new keyblade keychains, secret boss, and side quests}}
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| === Secret Ending plus my annoyance at Square Enix === | | === Secret Ending plus my annoyance at Square Enix === |
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| {{Bluer|13:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)|Has a fully English FM ever reach audiences? No. Are you annoyed at Square Enix? Yes. Are you still buying its games? Yes. Does Square really care about you? No.}} | | {{Bluer|13:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)|Has a fully English FM ever reach audiences? No. Are you annoyed at Square Enix? Yes. Are you still buying its games? Yes. Does Square really care about you? No.}} |
| {{Maggosh|nathan=I think I forgot to nominate you for a PR position.}} | | {{Maggosh|nathan=I think I forgot to nominate you for a PR position.}} |
| Final Mix for those who doesn't understand japanese can be quite the time killer. Why? besides the new features, we have to look at the translation guide every time we got a new ability or item lol. [[User:17master|17master]] 13:07, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{Keyblade0|time= 00:34, September 23, 2010|text=(I seriously wish that I could make an angry talk bubble right now) Who was that ****ing idiot that told Nomura to add more things in the Japenese Version!? Seriously, they had to release a final mix with more stuff. Does Nomura/Square-Enix hate us!? I mean, sure, there was a conflict in the 40s, but that doesn’t mean that he/they had to release more bonuses in the Japanese version!
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| I… Hate you… Nomura… so much...
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| …Must sue Square-Enix/Nomura…}}
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| {{17m|time=11:33, September 23, 2010 (UTC)|text= hey at least the guy made the game in the first place lol}}
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| ===Eraqus===
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| {{ST|text=i know the general consesus about the armored figure is that it's eraqus, but i don't remember anything saying so for certain. can someone tell me where ot was comfirmed? EDIT:Never mind just saw it}}
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| {{Chitalian8|time=01:29, September 18, 2010 (UTC)|text= Can you show me the link to the picture?}}
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| 'Cause WE WANNA SEE ARMORED ERAQUS!!!!!!!!!! because we NEVEAR WILL!!!--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 02:14, September 18, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
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| You see the armored figure at the end of the trailer very briefly. Go to KHInsider, right now its the first thing on the main page.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}02:16, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{ErryTalk|zexiontext=It looks like Xion's first and third forms' armors from KH:358/2}}
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| {{17m|time=18:02, September 18, 2010 (UTC)|text= Gah I'm too late, the video is gone now due to that copyright thing (as usual.) Did anyone got the chance to screenshot the video or something? That would be great for the rest of us who didn't get the chance to watch it.}}
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| {{ST|text=no, but here's a link to someone that did: [http://s266.photobucket.com/albums/ii276/RikuRising024/BBS%20FM/] }}
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| I will see if I can get a link to it ok?Darn they removed it sorry guys I already saw it try kh.com they might have it.{{SUBST:User:Lssj4/sig2 21:24, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{17m|time=12:17, September 19, 2010 (UTC)|text= sweet! Thanks alot ST :D Wow the forum on KHI is right, his armor does look like a samurai's. I wish a new trailer with better quality will come soon.}}
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| Will this title be released in north america or has no info been found on it yet? [[User:Khruler|Khruler]] 00:40, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| No, it won't, that's the point of the Final Mix games; they're Japanese exclusives.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}01:06, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| Well that sucks![[User:Khruler|Khruler]] 22:12, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| === Eraqus' Setiment / Remnant / Spirit / Whatever ===
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| A lot of people say the armored figure at the end is Eraqus, and if you look closely, it has the same boots as Eraqus. My question is if this guy is another secret boss or not. Vanitas' Remnant was already challenging, then the mysterious figure was near impossible, so how can they possibly make anything tougher? Mar 03:46, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| There's plenty of ways they could make a tougher boss. We don't know anything about the armored guy yet, other than that he/she briefly appears in the trailer.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}03:50, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| :...I think you guys are jumping the gun on calling it a secret boss. I've seen nothing official that says that, and like you say, he just appears in the trailer. For all we know it could be just Eraqus armoring up to fight Terra and they are featuring it in the trailer because, well, it's new content. If that is the case, they don't need to make it harder than the Unknown guy. (which I doubt they'd do anyway. The Unknown was a boss made so that none of them could beat it. Trying to top that would be, well, difficult, to say the least.)--[[User:Otherarrow|Otherarrow]] 13:42, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| :He's not at the castle, though, he's on the summit.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:13, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{ZexionFan321|terra=Well if you look at maggosh's pic you'll see that it is after the Land of Departure was destroyed AKA after Eraqus died. So maybe he is a secret boss after all.}}
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| === Fianl Mix... Not the final unfortunately ===
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| Can someone please tell me why Square Enix keep releasing Final Mix titles? This site categorizes them as remakes, but last I checked, it's not normal to announce a remake of a game, in the same month that it is released. It's not like the additional content couldn't have been programmed into the game from the start. To me, it just feels like an attempt to sell more games more than anything else, since the original games don't tend to sell as well as they should. [[User:LiLLiPaDDy|<span style="color:purple">LiLLiPaDDy</span>]] [[User talk:LiLLiPaDDy|<span style="color:blue">~True tears are never seen, only hidden~</span>]] 10:32, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| The game was not announced 'in the same month that it is released', since Final Mix is only for Japan, and the Japanese version of the original was released in January. But you're right about the two being very close together. [[Special:Contributions/82.37.246.236|82.37.246.236]] 13:45, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| Well it's not normal to remake a game in the same year it's released, as well as in the same month the translated version is released. [[User:LiLLiPaDDy|<span style="color:purple">LiLLiPaDDy</span>]] [[User talk:LiLLiPaDDy|<span style="color:blue">~True tears are never seen, only hidden~</span>]] 05:17, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| I think it started with KHFM which was created because of all the extra content in the US version of KH, and from then it just became a tradition for the main games in the KH series to get Final Mixes. --Evnyofdeath 07:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| what i dont get is:WHY hasnt he released a final mix HERE[[Special:Contributions/65.32.75.73|65.32.75.73]] 10:37, September 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| Nomura said that he will send the final mixes to the U.S as Trump Cards, which may come... in 10-20 years.{{User:Keyblade0/Sig}}
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| maybe he'll make some kind of a "Final Mix collection" after Kingdom Hearts series is finished. Think about it, you can replay your past favourite KH games with full features from the original Final Mixes [[User:17master|17master]] 13:04, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| === The trailer ===
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNOLhecTr1g I found that on youtube, it's mirrored so they can't erase the video. ...well, maybe they can, but, uh... just check it out while it's still there :/ [[User:17master|17master]] 04:03, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
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| === Armored Eraqus confirmed ===
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| {{17m|time=07:57, September 25, 2010 (UTC)|text= whoever took that picture is great at hitting a pause button at the right moment ._.}}
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| {{Edgeshadow|time=14:46, September 25, 2010 (UTC)|vanitas=I wan to see the whole body.}}
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| Dang, If Eraqus's keyblade wasn't in the way, I'd totally make a talk bubble image out of that screenshot. {{KKDSig|1}}
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| {{LA|Vtext=If you look closely during the trailer, the "armored unknown's" shoes are the same as Eraqus's. Sooooo >_>}}
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| {{Kensei|time=19:45, September 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=Not to mention his armor on his stomach looks just like Eraqus'}}
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| New secret boss. Looks very samurai-like wearing that armor.
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| E shaped Keyblade? Light Chain attack? The new boss is Master Eraqus' armor. I'm betting money on this.}}
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| {{ErryTalk|zexiontext=Hmm, I wonder if the boss would be Aqua-exclusive, as an addition to battle him before creating [[Castle Oblivion|CO]] and you'd get Eraqus' Keyblade as the item for beating him.}}
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| {{17m|time=11:47, October 13, 2010 (UTC)|intrigued= that's a nice theory. but maybe Terra and Ven can also obtain it, since the fight (might be) non canon}}
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| {{WarMonger89|text=That... would be awesome. if it were NOT the Final Mix Version. OH! i just had an idea, maybe they will get all the extras added into the Final Mix and make them into downloadable content for our version. what do u think?}}
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| {{LA|Vtext=How do you know this is a boss? I doubt it about Aqua, as the only one proven to even encounter this armor is Terra, as seen here:
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