Editing Forum:Disable the RTE NOW

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{{KrytenKoro|I am sick of cleaning up after the RTE. In order to get it disabled, we need to show wikia that we've had a discussion and agreed on it, so here goes:

The thing mucks up the coding, even for extremely simple templates like [[Template:Game]] or [[Template:Nihongo]]. If inserts space and blank lines throughout the page, and in general, no one uses it to do more than type, so there's no reason they can't use the regular editor.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=02:52, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I've never used it. Didn't even know it existed until I started seeing people asking it to be turned off. More power to you.}}
{{Xion4ever|time=02:54, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=Amen to that! About time the bloody thing was turned off. I can't tell how many edits I've had to fix due to it; same thing for telling new users! Thank you!}}
{{Riku's Love|time=02:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|shock= Sounds bad and if it is it should go.}}
{{EO|time=03:00, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|talktext=I'm all for getting rid of the damn thing, but keep in mind we'd have a lot more errors as inexperienced users and even IP's attempted to use the regular coding method...}}
{{MC|text=It must be disabled i hate that thing!}}
{{DTN|time=03:38, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=So the Rich Text Editor is what continues to add all of those extra spaces and lines between sections and templates of an article. Definitely be gone with it. Also, ENX, that's why Wikia provides the "Editing Tips" box to the right of the editing window, as well as several help pages for wiki-markup. I definitely don't think that will be a problem at all.}}
{{JFHavoc|time=04:19, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I've edited on the FF wiki before and I don' think they have the RTE, why is it that ''we'' have it? It messes up tons of articles and I (being a perfectionist <small>somewhat</small>) can't STAND it!}}
{{KKD|time=04:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|axel=I hate that thing. It keeps screwing up my page, and a lot of things I write.}}
{{SSC|time=04:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|F-talk=Meh, disable it. I never liked the thing anyways.}}
{{BebopKate|time=06:28, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=The first time that thing popped up, I said, "What's this?  I want to do things by good, ol' fashioned wiki code!  How do I change this?  In my day, computers were the size of refrigerators, and if you wanted a faster processing speed, you had to buy ''two'' hamsters!"

Er, my point is I agree it's evil and it needs to go away.}}
{{neumannz|time=08:51, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I concur. I've already made a habit of telling new users to shut the damn thing off. Lose it!}}

{{Shixoh|time=08:55, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text= I agree completely. This thing made trying to make my user page a nightmare. I've never had that many problems trying to do something like that before.}}
{{LevL|text=I agree with everyone. The thing should be disabled, it only gives us problems.}}
{{HOO|time=04:26, January 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Agreed. Get rid of it.}}
{{KrytenKoro|The below is the response from wikia:

Hello,
 
Thanks for contacting Wikia. A new version of the RTE will be release this
week. Please give that a chance and if the community still feels that they
would like it disabled, we can do that for you. Thank you for having an open
discussion with your community on this.
 
Best,
 
Sarah
 
--
Sarah Manley
Wikia Community and Technical Team

}}




Test test this is a test.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]]

One more test just to be sure.[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]]

{{KrytenKoro|Okay guys, it is still inserting blank lines when there shouldn't be any. This was one of our main concerns with the RTE, so is everyone fine with me requesting (a THIRD time) for it to be turned off?}}
{{Xion4ever|time=19:02, January 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, please! Having the RTE off is WAY overdue..}}
{{neumannz|time=19:05, January 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=I agree, they're gonna need to put a lot more work into this thing before it's in good shape to use.}}
{{DTN|time=19:38, January 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=This reminds me of when Wikia was also slow to remove the blogs. Wikia sure can be touchy about their new features. Yes, please get rid of the Rich Text Editor. This version still presents the same issues that the last one did.}}
{{KKD|time=04:01, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|axel=Yes! Get rid of the stupid thing.}}
{{TNE|time=04:19, April 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Most new people who log in end up using the RTE and don't know how to take it off. I think the best thing for us to do is to get all new users (whoever we tend to) to stop using the RTE - I'm sure we all know how to turn it off. If people risk messing up with templates, we make them as foolproof as possible (like what Kryten's been doing to the Reflist and a whole lot of other things).}}
{{BebopKate|time=22:39, April 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=You make a good point.  I'll add that to the [[Help:Guide For New Members|New Members Guide]].  Perhaps it will help some.

ETA: Made a quick little [[Help:Guide For New Members/Rich Text|tutorial]] here and added a note to the guide.  Please let me know if it doesn't display well on your monitor so I can tinker with the formatting if needed.}}
{{neumannz|time=00:04, April 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=Now, that looks perfect. Now I know where I can send the godless heathe--I mean, the new editors, instead of having to explain it over and over myself. Thanks, Kate!}}
{{TNE|time=01:09, April 14, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Yay, the link's on ^_^}}
{{ZTG|small=I fully agree. I had it on when I got IE8, and it was okay. All of a sudden, I go to edit a page, and all I see is: jfasdhgasdhadf6g9as6f9847723423654353453#$%#$%^#^#5345432561346534^#$%^%$@%^#$^@&%3^#45. So, ultimately, shut the thing off. This time, let's make it permanent!}}
{{neumannz|time=06:42, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=Holy crap, is it ''gone''?!}}
{{TNE|time=06:54, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=Gone ? The page is still there ; I just accessed it a few hours ago. The only thing that it needs is a category change.}}
{{neumannz|time=07:06, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=No, not that! The RTE!}}
{{TNE|time=09:26, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, if the RTE is gone, then it's good news. I disactivated the RTE quite a while ago so I wouldn't know. What about you ?}}
{{neumannz|time=15:01, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, I don't see it under Preferences. I also logged out and tried editing, and I still didn't see it, so... looks like it's gone!}}
{{TNE|time=15:13, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Yep, it's official, guys : I checked the Preferences and here's what they did :

#They disabled the tabs in the Preferences bit.
#There is no Rich Text Editing, so that means our Help Guide to turn off the RTE might need to be updated or even removed.

And I don't know why they disabled tabs, but guys, it's official :

<big><big>ZE RTE EES GONE !</big></big>}}
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 {{Riku's Love|time=02:58, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|shock= Sounds bad and if it is it should go.}}
 {{EO|time=03:00, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|talktext=I'm all for getting rid of the damn thing, but keep in mind we'd have a lot more errors as inexperienced users and even IP's attempted to use the regular coding method...}}
-{{Malevolence Crystalised|text=It must be disabled i hate that thing!}}
+{{MC|text=It must be disabled i hate that thing!}}
 {{DTN|time=03:38, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=So the Rich Text Editor is what continues to add all of those extra spaces and lines between sections and templates of an article. Definitely be gone with it. Also, ENX, that's why Wikia provides the "Editing Tips" box to the right of the editing window, as well as several help pages for wiki-markup. I definitely don't think that will be a problem at all.}}
 {{JFHavoc|time=04:19, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I've edited on the FF wiki before and I don' think they have the RTE, why is it that ''we'' have it? It messes up tons of articles and I (being a perfectionist <small>somewhat</small>) can't STAND it!}}
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 {{KKD|time=04:01, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|axel=Yes! Get rid of the stupid thing.}}
 {{TNE|time=04:19, April 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Most new people who log in end up using the RTE and don't know how to take it off. I think the best thing for us to do is to get all new users (whoever we tend to) to stop using the RTE - I'm sure we all know how to turn it off. If people risk messing up with templates, we make them as foolproof as possible (like what Kryten's been doing to the Reflist and a whole lot of other things).}}
-{{BebopKate|time=22:39, April 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=You make a good point.  I'll add that to the [[Help:New user guide|New Members Guide]].  Perhaps it will help some.
+{{BebopKate|time=22:39, April 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=You make a good point.  I'll add that to the [[Help:Guide For New Members|New Members Guide]].  Perhaps it will help some.
-ETA: Made a quick little [[Help:New user guide/Rich Text|tutorial]] here and added a note to the guide.  Please let me know if it doesn't display well on your monitor so I can tinker with the formatting if needed.}}
+ETA: Made a quick little [[Help:Guide For New Members/Rich Text|tutorial]] here and added a note to the guide.  Please let me know if it doesn't display well on your monitor so I can tinker with the formatting if needed.}}
 {{neumannz|time=00:04, April 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=Now, that looks perfect. Now I know where I can send the godless heathe--I mean, the new editors, instead of having to explain it over and over myself. Thanks, Kate!}}
 {{TNE|time=01:09, April 14, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Yay, the link's on ^_^}}
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-{{JFHavoc|time=17:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|happy=Thank goodness. Only took them like 4 months =_=}}
-{{BebopKate|time=23:01, April 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hah, that didn't last long, did it?  Ah well...I'll take it down and edit the new user page accordingly. ^_^
-Is it just us, or are other wikis RTE free now?}}
-{{TNE|time=00:48, April 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=I believe it's either just us, or it's just the English wikis. I checked my other active wiki, KHFR, and KHFR still has the RTE option. Not to mention the nbsp marks I have to correct without fail.... -____-}}
-{{LapisScarab|time=00:52, April 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't see the option on my Zelda Wiki account, so it might just be the English Wikis. EDIT: The Bleach Wiki still has it though. Curious.}}
-{{TNE|time=02:13, April 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Bleach Wiki still has the RTE, and KHW and Zelda don't have it ? I doubt TSW has it either, though I could be wrong.
-The side of the Francophones always gets changes later than the English versions (we don't even have WikiStickies), so I'm not surprised.}}