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== Video ==

Can somebody ''please'' put english subs on the video with Ven in Castle of Dreams? [[User:Veroso|Veroso]] 07:13, 7 March, 2009

== Ven meets xigbar ==

{{xeyj|time=[[User:Xeyj|Xeyj]] 05:39, 22 August 2009 (UTC)|text=I don't know why everyone says that braig met ven, what if its xigbar that meets ven.}}
:#Birth by Sleep was ten years ago. The Organization is younger than that given obvious clues—Nobodies didn't ''exist'' ten years ago (making it unlikely ''Xigbar'' met them).
:#It's probably safe to say that Terra, Ven, and Aqua don't end well, creating a slim margin for Braig/Xigbar to have met them.
:#Braig (as in, '''Braig''') will appear in BBS, meaning an obvious opportunity to meet Terra, Ven, and Aqua.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 06:57, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

should we have xigbar's "Goldfish" quote(if you get there you know the one) as a placeholder quote for ven's page.

No. Not only is that a trivial quote, its not really that important to Ven. "Staring at him like Xigbar killed his goldfish?" Wouldn't sound right. The important event is that Xigbar saw Ven instead of Xion.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:30, October 15, 2009 (UTC)

it's kinda funny and might well be better on braig's page in the Birth by sleep section.

Indeed, it was somewhat funny. But its a very trivial note that isn't worth mentioning. It's already mentioned on Xion's page (check the trivia), only in a more mature form (excluding the quote). If you wanna post your idea on Braig's BBS talk page, you'd probably get more responses.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:51, October 15, 2009 (UTC)
 {{MasterAqua|time=17:56, December 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=There is one article on BBS that showes Braig--I think in Radiant Garden or somewhere else-- with Xenahort teid up, and then Braig is a boss fight for at least Ven. That would explain one of the reasons Xigbar was shocked at seeing Ven, the one who killed his person.Here--http://www.khinsider.com/images/NewScans/Famitsu14.jpg}}

== Young? ==

{{NitrousX|text=Could Ven be younger then Terra and Aqua, since they take their master test and he doesn't? Plus the height difference.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Yes, he is. Noumra even said so. Terra and Aqua are at least 25 years old. In the Final Mix of Kingdom Hearts II, Xaldin stated that Sora was ten years too young to wield the Keyblade when he was only 15 years old. Ven looks like his at least 14 or so.}}
{{NitrousX|text=Ahh... thank you Lady Sheik. Well that crushes all speculation of VenxAqua.}}
{{PrincessAndie|text= Not necessarily. I've heard of people getting married with 10+ age differences between them. (I'm not saying I believe in the pairing, I don't make any opinions on characters until I play the game)}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=That's craddle robbing and it's illegal.}}
{{PrincessAndie|text= Well it was several years ago I heard that...}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Okay...?}}
{{Maggosh|text=We have teenagers running around with oversized keys destroying wooden crates and lamp posts. I think what's illegal and what's not has been dismissed by now.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Good point.}}

Once you're past the age of consent (as long as it '''is''' consensual anyone is fair game. I'm proof of this as 20+ years of difference existed between my parents when I was born.

And are you sure he says 10 too young to wield the keyblade? From what i've seen that line could be translated differently. It's definitely a crack about sora's age but he could also mean it's ten years too ''late'' for someone to have the keyblade. (if he'd showed up a couple years earlier we could have saved a lot of trouble)

Wait, HOLD IT! Terra is only 19, Aqua's only 16, Ven is 14. So yeah, AquaxVen is possible.
How do you know their exact age? Are you just guessing?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 00:42, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

NinjaShiek- No, I found their age's on a website. I forgot the name. By the way, I'll post the link on my userpage once I find it...

Can you find it again? Show me proof.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:03, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Gimmie a couple days; it might take that long...

Is is that hard to find?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Like Andie, I don't relly care about the pairing, but if someone has to be at least 25 to have a Keyblade, doesn't that mean that Ven needs to be at least 25 too? It Does seem likely that Ven is younger than, or at least not as experienced as Terra and Aqua though. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 00:50, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the ten years comment is just an expression, also Ven could be 14 years old since he looks just like Roxas who was created when Sora was 14 years old.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 00:21, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
:Except that he appears to be as tall as Roxas was in KHII, which was when Sora was 15. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:11, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
::But Nobodies don't age. Explain that. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 17:48, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
:::Naminé and Roxas BOTH aged, due to them still being connected to an 'active' heart. Keep up; this is old news. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:51, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
:::: Naminé I don't know, but Roxas never aged, he's always looked the same and the heart thing you are talking about only gave them the ability feel emotions and somehow pass them to others i.e. Axel.--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 17:57, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
::::: Compare Naminé in Chain of Memories with Naminé in KHII - she's clearly taller. Also, you don't see Roxas grow due to the pointlessness of making character models that get progressively taller. But if you compare Roxas with Sora in KHII, they're about the same height. If he'd stopped aging, surely he'd be the same height Sora was in KH. [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 18:03, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
::::::Camera tricks, I tell you. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 13:07, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

I think their age are estimated to be for Terra is 17, Aqua is 16, and Ventus is 15 years old. Also I think a VentusxAqua is possible. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 23:18, December 18, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11

:Don't think so. I think it's gonna be TerraxAqua, but that's just me. [[User:The Yoshiman 97|The Yoshiman 97]] 23:13, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

yes it is possible but it's not going to happen, the reason well in a scenen in Radiant Garden when ventus give the tickets to terra and to aqua he says that he wasd told to go with his "parents" which proves that he does not have romantic feeling for her--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 00:06, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

:Is there a video? I'd like to see it, even without subs. [[User:The Yoshiman 97|The Yoshiman 97]] 03:55, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

== Roxas Ripoff? ==

I like to call Ventus the "Roxas Ripoff". Does anyone have a clue why Ventus looks like Roxas?

If its not in the article then all of us ar still guessing n wishing n hoping and ummmm...WAIT RIPOFF?!?!...-_- u wudnt like it if someone threw ripoff at the end of ur name...i dont like that. that hurts my feelings -XeroXero

:How is Ven a Roxas ripoff? Chronologically, Ven came first. :P [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:05, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

I do. It's because he has the closest connection to Sora. Found that on the Internet can't remember the site.

Well, it says on the Sora page that Roxas looks like Ventus because Ventu's heart merged with Sora. Yeah, makes sense, I guess, but I don't know where the proof is.....[[User:Coroxn|Coroxn]] 19:32, February 23, 2010 (UTC)

== Ambixterous keyblade wielders ==

why is it only Xion,Roxas and Ventus are the only keyblade wielders that can use both hands well I'm abidexterous too but it seems rare (Naminépower)

Ambi- ambid- whatever. It's really rare. Only about 1 every 8 people have it. Also, you forgot Sora in his Drive forms, except for Limit, Anti, and Wisdom.

:Indeed, ambidexterity is very rare in the real world, so it makes sense that the same applies here. Also, sign your posts with 4 tildes (four ~). [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 04:38, November 26, 2009 (UTC)


== More Trivia ==
I saw the new birth by sleep gameplay. You should add that one of Ventus's special moves (i think its speed rave) is similar to riku's DARK Aura and riku's limit break in 358/2 days. This may imply a connection because Ven takes The Way to the dawn keyblade also

{{LapisScarab|time=04:22, December 3, 2009 (UTC)|text=In regards to the comparison to Riku, that's purely speculation and should not go onto the article.}}


{{Venkix|text=But it also shows Ven falling with the [[Soul Eater]] in the awakening.}}

{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=The Kingdom Key is also visible.}}


But why the soul eater? maybe Ven has some connection with riku...



I believe Ven has a connection with Sora, not RIku. From the trailers I thik Ven is having a little trouble with his heart. Just like Riku. ---Master Aqua 21:49, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

== Maybe.... ==

Maybe everybody will come back in KH III

:Maybe you should sign your name. And stop with this so far pointless speculation. Elaborate a little, give evidence that could support it for crying out loud! [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 08:33, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

== Oi, oi... =_=;; ==

{{NeutraVega|Hey now, I needed to make a few grammatical tweaks to this article.  And I can't very well do that when some of ya'll are just frakking about and getting the page locked!  Quit screwing around!  And Bluerfn, it'll be super if you can unlock it again.}}
== Sora ==

{{Drake|time=23:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=I haven't seen this around the talk pages, but among all the other spoilers I haven't found out what Ventus' connection to Sora/Roxas is. I know about Vanitas, but not Ven. Anyone know?}}
{{Randomnessity|text=Most likely because it hasn't been revealed yet.}}

It's something weird. Ven and Vanitas are pretty much the same (Vanita's is the human form of Ven's darkness) they fuse together and Aqua defeats him (Vanitas) while he's using Ven's body. I'm not very clear on what happens next, but I guess the lack of darkness in Ven's heart makes him incomplete. So, he approaches Sora and asks him if he can go to sleep inside of him(not to sound innapropriate). Sora agrees. If i'm wrong please correct me. [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 17:04, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

See [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtVcAXBMqo]. In the end, [[Ventus]] becomes one with [[Sora]]'s heart. That's the connection and the reason why [[Roxas]] looks like Ven.
- [[User:One-Winged Angel]] January 10, 2010 13:31
{{unbirthtalk|text=The problem is, in a cutscene with Riku (just before this one), it is said that someone connected to Sora is sad, and Sora looks inside himself to find this person and meet Ven's "heart". But we don't even understand how Ven connected himself with Sora (or actually I didn't see how). Maybe they don't even show it, and we'll see that in the next game... -___- }}

At the beginning of the game Ventus is in his station of awakening which is missing a large chunk since this mean he'll be gone a voice offers that he connects to his heart, after that his station of awakening is repair because of the connection with Sora later in the game it is asume that Sora was he voice[http://heartstation.org/bbs/].--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 03:31, January 13, 2010 (UTC)


== Duel Wielding ==

Not to disturb anyone's thoughts, but I'm beginning to think that Sora and Roxas' ability to duel wield Keyblades is based off of Ventus too. Think about it, Sora is the new Keyblade Wielder and Ventus was one, so if Ventus' heart is inside him, that would mean like Sora's accessing two people's powers. I mean, I can't be absolutely sure, but it could be a possibility. Ventus' heart fused with Sora's to sleep inside him, but the power is still there.--[[User:Charmed-Jay|Charmed-Jay]] 11:04, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
{{Raven's wing|time=12:55, January 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=The official stance is that any Keyblade wielder can dual wield using the Synch Blade ability. It's just that Roxas and Riku are the only ones shown using it naturally (as opposed to using Drive Forms like Sora).}}

== Ven a.....Prince of heart? ==

so if vaniatas was a manifestion of the darkness in his heart, and vanitas was killed at the end of the game. that means ven has a pure heart with no darkness, just like the princesses.--[[User:Foutlet|Foutlet]] 13:47, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

But because he was not an actual "princess of heart" when he lost his darkness he became incomplete.[[User:Redeemer &amp; Destroyer|Redeemer &amp; Destroyer]] 13:52, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Im going to post a forum about this to discuss the possibilities in more details.--[[User:Foutlet|Foutlet]] 15:59, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Alright I finsihed the forum about this topic, feel free to read it if you dont mind great walls of text.--[[User:Foutlet|Foutlet]] 17:35, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

I think when Ventus defeat Vanitas, Ventus's missing heart Vanitas returned in to Ventus's Heart. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 01:32, January 23, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

== Sora's Awakening (Hilarious amount of spoilers) ==

If Ventus' heart is now residing within Sora's, it is a very destinct possibility that the diembodied voice that Sora (and NO ONE ELSE) heard at various points in the first game (KH1) was actually Ventus.

{{Raven's wing|time=Raven's wing 18:06, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Interesting idea. But could you please sign your posts by typing four ~s on the end?}}


== coded ==

Something told me Ventus was going to be in this game. Was I right? [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 04:04, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

== Question! ==

Okay, So Ven is connected with Sora. So when his heart went bye-bye, it went with Sora. So that's the reason Roxas looks like Sora.



My question is this, Vanitas. He looks like Sora. Did Ven ever meet Sora before the game (BBS) or something to make him look like Sora? Because, I'm having problems understanding that part. I know that Vanitas is Ven's dark part, but why does he look like Sora?



[[User:Black Rose1809|Black Rose1809]] 17:50, February 25, 2010 (UTC)Black_Rose1809



I think what it is, is that Ven's connection to Van caused him to look like Sora and Sora taking in Ven's heart caused Sora to look like Sora, had Sora not taken in Ven's heart he would have looked different by the time KH1 came around. Did you understand what I said? [[User:Black Tornado|Black Tornado]] 22:57, March 9, 2010 (UTC)Black Tornado
:Square-Enix ran out of ideas, so they decided to go with putting Sora's face on Vanitas. It's some sort of ploy to get people to like Ven (and Roxas) better than Sora. [[User:Werehog21]] 12:39 AM 3/11/2010 (UTC)
Well that is more or less why they did it, but I was just trying to explain it within the story. I don not think it is about Ven and Roxas getting more popularity than Sora; people choose to prefer these characters so that they may seem cooler going against the "main stream" ideal of the main protagonist. [[User:Black Tornado|Black Tornado]] 21:44, March 11, 2010 (UTC)Black Tornado

== So... Age. ==

So how old is he suppose to be in BBS? I'm thinking 14.



But then I'm also thinking, if his heart been asleep and he comes back, Does he stay young or does he seem like... older?



I mean like, Aqua. She's been behind the door for 11 years, should'nt she look older? Is she?



[[User:Black Rose1809|Black Rose1809]] 18:04, February 25, 2010 (UTC)Black_Rose1809



I think that ven's about 14-15 and in flackacks he is 11-13. And when ven lost his hearts i think that he couldn't get older becouse he doesen't have a heart and i think that Aqua isn't any older couse shes in Dark Realm....

== Is Ventus jealous of Terra and Aqua?  ==

It seems to me that because Terra and Aqua are ahead of him, he's jealous of them, but what EXACTLY would that be for?

Despite the fact it is pure speculation...on what instances do you base this assumption? As far as I remember Ven is excited to see them become masters and, due to his devotion to both his closest friends and his overall kind and helping personality wants to do everything to help them.
If you're referring to the instances of both Terra and Aqua denying Ven's request to accompany them on their travels his reaction is more in the area of disappointment and frustration than jealousy...cuz he so desperately wants to help them and isn't allowed to. 
He may also be slightly annoyed sometimes cuz from his point of view Terra and Aqua are reacting overprotective of him like a hen to her chicken...but honestly I've never noticed anything in Ven's behavior that points to jealous feelings...and I'm playing his scenario right now and I'm up to Neverland...[[Special:Contributions/93.223.160.243|93.223.160.243]] 19:07, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, given the type of personality he has, he certainly wouldn't let jealousy get the best of him, but nonetheless, I'm still sure that the insecurities are still there.

he has never once shown any insecurity or jealousy towards terra and aqua being ahead of them. he isn't old enough nor strong enough to become a master just yet, something he seems to understand. besides, last i checked jealousy would be a form of darkness, and ven's heart is pure light --ShadowsTwilight 17:36, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Right, from what I remember when Xemnas was listing the negative emotions connected to Darkness he mentioned Jelousy. --Evnyofdeath 17:55, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well then, perhaps it may not necessarily be "jealously" in the traditional sense, but I'm sure he still has insecurities, even with his heart of pure light.
:Sigh, the first repsond gave it to ya pretty well. He wasn't jealous, he was frustrated and disappointed Terra and Aqua didn't want his help. It seems to me your flat out guessing actually. --Evnyofdeath 20:20, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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 Wait, HOLD IT! Terra is only 19, Aqua's only 16, Ven is 14. So yeah, AquaxVen is possible.
-How do you know their exact age? Are you just guessing?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 00:42, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
+How do you know their exact age? Are you just guessing?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 00:42, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 NinjaShiek- No, I found their age's on a website. I forgot the name. By the way, I'll post the link on my userpage once I find it...
-Can you find it again? Show me proof.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:03, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
+Can you find it again? Show me proof.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:03, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 Yeah, sure. Gimmie a couple days; it might take that long...
-Is is that hard to find?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
+Is is that hard to find?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:10, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
 Like Andie, I don't relly care about the pairing, but if someone has to be at least 25 to have a Keyblade, doesn't that mean that Ven needs to be at least 25 too? It Does seem likely that Ven is younger than, or at least not as experienced as Terra and Aqua though. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 00:50, November 26, 2009 (UTC)
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 :Square-Enix ran out of ideas, so they decided to go with putting Sora's face on Vanitas. It's some sort of ploy to get people to like Ven (and Roxas) better than Sora. [[User:Werehog21]] 12:39 AM 3/11/2010 (UTC)
 Well that is more or less why they did it, but I was just trying to explain it within the story. I don not think it is about Ven and Roxas getting more popularity than Sora; people choose to prefer these characters so that they may seem cooler going against the "main stream" ideal of the main protagonist. [[User:Black Tornado|Black Tornado]] 21:44, March 11, 2010 (UTC)Black Tornado
-um yeah. sora's heart connected in the beginning of the game. in fact thats the reason ventus survived when xehanort put him on destiny islands. because sora was connected to vens hearts. vanitas looks like sore would in 11 years
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 Well then, perhaps it may not necessarily be "jealously" in the traditional sense, but I'm sure he still has insecurities, even with his heart of pure light.
 :Sigh, the first repsond gave it to ya pretty well. He wasn't jealous, he was frustrated and disappointed Terra and Aqua didn't want his help. It seems to me your flat out guessing actually. --Evnyofdeath 20:20, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
-remember ventus doesnt have darkness in his heart, therefore making it nearly impossible to be jelous
-Still, he is human like the rest of us. All people have emotions, and jealousy is one of them.
-:Thats not what we're saying. Okay, give us ONE instance where he shows actual jealousy. It has to be undeniable he was jealous. Evnyofdeath 00:42, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
-== How old is Ventus? ==
-How old is Ventus? I've always thought of him being 12, and Aqua and Terra being 15, but it's never really said.
-I don't think they can be just one year apart because Aqua and Terra look much older than Ven. Plus, I think Ven looks younger than Roxas and Sora (the first game).
---[[User:ETHAN1994|ETHAN1994]] 21:46, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
-Ven's age has never been given, but he's definitely not 12. Sora is currently 15, and Ventus looks about the same age as him, maybe older. I'd say Aqua and Terra are in their early 20's. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 21:48, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
-:Ventus's, Terra's And Aqua's ages are never mentioned in the game nor in official strategy guides etc. --<span style="font-weight: bold">[[User:Sovereign92|<span style="color: #00FF7F">So</span>]][[User talk:Sovereign92|<span style="color: #00FF00">ve</span>]]</span> 21:50, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
-::... Which is what I said. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 21:57, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
-:While their actual ages are never explicitly stated, it is safe to say that Terra is the oldest and Ven the youngest. Judging by appearances is always shady, but by the time of BBS (not counting the flashbacks 4 years before BBS) Ventus should be either 13,14 or 15, no younger. Aqua is somewhere between 17 and 19, while Terra probably goes around the span 19 to 21. {{User:Sephiroth0812/Autosig}}22:03, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
-I think this information belongs on the talk page.--''[[User:The Dark Master|Master]]''
-No, it doesn't. The talk page is supposed to be about things meant to improve the article. Their ages have not been confirmed anywhere, so all of this is speculation (which I could have simply deletyed for that reason), but I moved it to a forum so you all could still talk about it.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}22:15, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
-{{AROS|time=17:16|text=Does anyone else here look all of this and just find it kind of silly, knowing what we know now? I mean, this was all speculation, and all we had back then was speculation, but STILL.}}