Editing Forum:Community Portal

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{{DTN|time=04:14, October 10, 2009 (UTC)|text=[[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Traverse Town]].

I think that this really needs an update, a reorganization. This page has become virtually useless and unused; I think that we should re-do it so that it can become a center of attention for active contributive Users, such as TWTNW Forums.}}
{{Bluer|08:48, October 10, 2009 (UTC)|The community must first determine what they want to use the Portal for, kupo. Community participation has been very strong within the forums, kupo, and I doubt anyone would want to engage in oldschool wikipedia style convos, kupo. What do you have in mind, kupo? 

If I'm not mistaken, generally, community portals serve to collect links to access various pages and services provided for the community,}}
{{DTN|time=17:52, October 10, 2009 (UTC)|text=Perhaps we should put up some links to Kingdom Hearts Wiki: pages? Such as the Featured Media voting, Pages For Deletion, perhaps active Forum discussions as well? I think that this Wiki's community is quite used to using the Forums for suggestions and issues, but perhaps we could also use the Community Portal as a place to post vandals that an Admin needs to stomp out, and having voting/Wiki concensus decisions made here as well. Comments?}}
{{Bluer|17:08, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|That's all good and all, kupo. I'd like to hear any other ideas,}}
{{DTN|time=22:15, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|text=I'll reel in some more Users.}}

{{MelodiousNature|time=22:25, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|text=I agree with DTN. But, is there anyway we could keep specific forum pages at the top of the forum. People will instantly forget where to post vandalism unless it's kept in full view. Just an idea?}}
{{TNE|time=22:28, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|text=Hm. So we're thinking of a page with subsections like the front page : Forums/Featured Media/P for D + CoreWiki (Consensus/Complaints/Vandals) + a section for crazy ideas/suggestions perhaps ? For the wiki, of course.}}
{{DTN|time=23:00, October 13, 2009 (UTC)|text=Yes, rather not the crazy ideas related to North Korea or microwavable explosives. ^_^

That or in those transparent boxes like we have now. I don't think it shuld be as grand and apparance-based as the front page is. This a page for the Users' work, after all. Plus, then we could maybe get rid of that page for voting for featured media. Also, maybe you all forgot, but perhaps we should place [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Realm of Nothingness]] there as well. Or we could delete it; I'm not that fond of it, and it's not used anymore.}}
{{HOO|time=03:41, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=I like this idea. We should have an area for Users while the main page can be for readers or anons. This is just what I think we should put on it.

*Voting for Media
*Voting for any Wiki decisions
*Area for suggestions
*Link to the forums 
**Perhaps we could even have a little box that tells what recent forum topics are being discussed
*Link to Page for Deletions
*Places for contacting either Admins or Central Wiki for vandals or wiki problems
*Ongoing projects of Users. Someone can add a project they have if they want some help on it.
*When the sidebar and Main page was changed, they got rid of the section of Main categories. I don't about anyone else but I liked having that. Maybe we could have a list of the major categories.
*On Wikipedia's community portal, they have a Guidelines, Help, and Resources section, see it here. ---> [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_portal]  Maybe we could add something like that with links to the Manual of Style, Help pages and other stuff.

P.S. I don't see why we need the Realm of Nothingness page either.}}
{{DTN|time=04:10, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=I think that's a good list of content. For a voting section, the poll section would have to be utilized. I like the idea of have a box telling of active forums, mainly because that I also suggested it. ^_^ The project section would probably help Users who are constantly asking for something to do, too. Take a look at the project template at [[User:Azul81677/Castle Oblivion#Projects]]. As for the final bullet, I was thinking that we could post all of the common help pages and Kingdom Hearts Wiki-space pages.}}
{{HOO|time=04:31, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=I was thinking about that template but couldn't remember where I saw it. I think we could use it as long as Azul is okay with it but I don't see why he wouldn't. I was also thinking maybe we could have our own Cleanup Drive for serious users and that it could be more focused to the behind going-ons in the Wiki like editing categories, redirects or even going through the Articles for Deletion category.}}
{{DTN|time=04:34, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=Unfortunately, the last of those would be a task for only our three active Admins. <s>The Cleanup Drive of the Month was removed, so the community may not want to bring it back, just with something other than articles.</s> And I don't think Azul would mind if we used his project template; I didn't see a notice that said not to!}}
{{HOO|time=04:40, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=But the Cleanup of the Month is still on the main page though and this month's project is Days articles}}
{{DTN|time=04:44, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=Wow, am I really that non-observant? I must be going insane a little. Eh, maybe it was just a pre-renovation suggestion then for the Main Page.

Anyway, that sounds good. Now, how should this all be organized. do we want a heading-list like in articles and talk pages, or columns of boxes like on the Main Page. Remember, it's not about the look of it, but how helpful it is for the Users. In mathematical terms...

usefulness > appearance}}
{{HOO|time=05:09, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=Nothing too fancy, but maybe have boxes for the recent forums and User projects. The rest is pretty much links to other areas.}}
{{TNE|time=05:15, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=All that page needs is a little sprucing up, I'd say. I think appearance wouldn't count, because the things in the Community Portal are already in boxes if I'm not mistaken. If not, we could just take a leaf from Final Fantasy Wiki's book.}}
{{Xiggie|time=16:13, October 15, 2009 (UTC)|text=OK, I think that The Community Portal/Traverse Town should be used for users to get '''Help''', information on '''Current Projects''', links to "hot" '''Forum topics''' and finally, links to the '''KH Wiki stuff''' (Staff, Jiminy's Journal/Roxas' Diary, Voting for Media, Page for Deletions, and maybe the top categories and such).}}
{{TNE|time=01:37, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm saying yes to your suggestion. So, shall we work on it ?}}
{{BebopKate|time=03:44, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=I think that's a great list to start with for a new Portal, guys.  Short, sweet, and easy to navigate.

And my apologies if we were supposed to do away with the cleanup drive this month...that was my mistake; I updated the front page for the month and just carried on as normal.  It was originally a replacement for the Featured Article anyway back from a time when we didn't have that many articles to feature.}}
{{TNE|time=04:01, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|happytext=Oh c'mon, we forgot about the mistake already. ^_^ So, shall we begin ?}}
{{DTN|time=04:04, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=Absolutely ! I think we should clear the page out of what we don't need first, which is pretty much everything. :P This will prevent lag when editting.

We also should get the coding for the boxes that are on the page, as this is what the content will be in on the Community Portal. At least, that's what the plan was as to my knowledge.

@BK: Yes, great responsibility really does suck sometimes, doesn't it? :P}}
{{TNE|time=04:20, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay then. There any way I can help ?}}
{{DTN|time=05:21, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|happytext=Absolutely! Why don't you create a sample box that we can put the active TWTNW Forum topics in? This is my favorite addition to the Community Portal. ^_^}}
{{TNE|time=05:28, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=We '''can''' make it a bit like the front page, only... how do we put in the most active topics ? Because they change from time to time, and it won't be good if we just link to the top of, say, this week.}}
{{DTN|time=05:31, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=I don't mean to use a code. I was thinking that we can just add them ourselves. For example, active forum tpoics right now are the ones about the Community Portal, new IRC OPs, this, and the Mission Articles. We just need a way to put those in that isn't just a staight-down bulleted list. I was thinking double-column.}}
{{TNE|time=05:34, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay, I'll work on it on the Mensa...... once I'm done with my share of infobox editing on KHFR ^_^" heh...}}
{{Xiggie|time=17:52, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|happy=Well, I just finished an example of what I had in mind: ''[[User:Xiggie/Workshop#Community Portal|check it out]]''

well, what do you guys 'n' gals think?}}
{{DTN|time=22:24, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|happytext=It seems just about perfect to me! I'd like to put this into use if there after suggestion are made. By the way, there's an apostrophe after "Terra" in the main characters section. Perhaps we should set up editting guidelines, and perhaps appoint a mod/admin/Xiggie to keep watch over the "hot forum topics" and to change them out. I would be happy to oblige if nobody else will just '''die''' without the job.}}
{{BebopKate|time=22:40, October 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=My only issue is the length...not a big fan of scrolling.  

But honestly, the layout and theming '''more''' than makes up for it.  I could most certainly live with that as a Portal page.}}
{{TNE|time=00:06, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=We assign a few people over the Community Portal, how's that ?}}
{{Xiggie|time=00:14, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|takk=Sounds good to me :P

Anyway, I'm not too sure on what projects are going on right now... you two (DTN and BK) are making the Mission articles, ya? is there anyhting else?

Oh, and BobopKate, I made these lovely little links at the top for you to go right to the District you want, without scrolling one bit :P

So... do you want me to throw this new layout on right away, or wait for more users to get more opinions?}}
{{DTN|time=00:16, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=Yes, the mission articles are being made by Bebop and I. I think it's going swimmingly. :D

Ahh, a committee of sorts then? Well, what jobs would you find necessary? Project Manager, TWTNW Forum Manager, etc....}}
{{Xiggie|time=00:39, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=hmm, I think that we'd only need those two jobs. Could we be the ones to do it? :P Roxas and Xion :P

OK, the Mission project has been added to the list. is there anything else going on?}}
{{yer mom|time=01:50, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=It looks so pretty Xiggie, congratulations ♥. Sorry for not adding anything to this, real life has been getting to me lately >.> 

As for other Mission projects there's the Character articles revamp started by GS, there's a forum topic somewhere around if you wanna know more.}}
{{DTN|time=03:52, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|text=I suppose that we could work as a dynamic duo again. Only fitting, right? :P

So, take your pick, and I'll take whatever you don't watch. I tend to keep a closer watch on the Forums, but I don't ever TOUCH the Twilight Town Library topics.}}
{{Bluer|11:46, October 17, 2009 (UTC)|My comments, kupo, is that the proposed style quite closely follows [[Wikipedia:Community_portal|Wikipedia's]], which I would prefer to see at the moment, kupo. But, there should be a good place for the district images, kupo. Perhaps you could put each "districts" into boxes, too, kupo, and have the image properly thumbed on the left or right side of the boxes? Either way, that's what I would prefer,}}
{{DTN|time=18:54, October 24, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well, it seems that everything is perfect with Xiggie's new Community Portal, aside from Bleur's minor image feedback. Are we all ready to make the change, and abolish the old Community Portal? Please say so, so that I'll have the confirmation to change the Community Portal.}}
{{BebopKate|time=20:53, October 24, 2009 (UTC)|text=*raises hand*  I say go for it.  I think it's as polished as it can get at this point.  And if need be, little tweaks can be made here and there...it's not like these things are set in stone.}}
{{HOO|time=21:10, October 24, 2009 (UTC)|text=I think it looks great. The only thing I would add is a link for people at Central Wiki for vandals (when no Admins are on) or serious wiki problems.}}
{{DTN|time=04:16, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay, I am taking the page from Xiggie's sub-page and replacing all of the Community Portal's current content with it. If there are any further concerns and/or suggestions (or compliments!), please leave them here, or just edit the Community Portal. Thanks for everyone's help, it'll be great to have a ''real'' Community Portal again, won't it?}}
{{HOO|time=04:24, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Are we going to save the "Second District" on the old page? Maybe move is to the "Third District" archive?}}
{{DTN|time=04:38, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|shocktext=Darn, I just missed your message right before making the change. It is up, by the way, links and all. ^_^

I don't really see the need in keeping those; I mean, really: what's the point of us having those? I'm sure there are some who would like the discussions kept, though. If so, we can through them into a sub-page, perhaps?}}
{{HOO|time=04:43, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=And I'm sure if we really needed to keep them we could just go look at the page history and copy it.}}
{{DTN|time=13:00, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Exactly.}}