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{{Forumheader|The Realm of Sleep|The World that Never was}}
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{{EO|time=18:58, May 9, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=Going around various articles, I'm seeing some use screenshots as images, and others use renders. Some have none at all, as they were either removed for whatever reason, or none exist. Some pages are completely over-crowded with images, as well. Thus, I'm going to try my best and come up with a policy for all this. Let's see if I can't make people agree with me, shall we?
{{EO|time=18:58, May 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Going around various articles, I'm seeing some use screenshots as images, and others use renders. Some have none at all, as they were either removed for whatever reason, or none exist. Some pages are completely over-crowded with images, as well. Thus, I'm going to try my best and come up with a policy for all this. Let's see if I can't make people agree with me, shall we?


*'''Policy for Renders'''
*'''Policy for Renders'''
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*<big><big><big><big>WRONG</big></big></big></big>  
*<big><big><big><big>WRONG</big></big></big></big>  
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<gallery>
File:Darkness Takes Over 01 KHBBS.png|Terra at the end of ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep''
File:Terra's_Darkness.png|Terra at the end of ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep''
</gallery>
</gallery>


*<big><big><big>ALSO WRONG!</big></big></big>
*<big><big><big>ALSO WRONG!</big></big></big>
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<gallery>
File:Darkness Takes Over 01 KHBBS.png|Terra submits to the darkness during his final battle with Xehanort after the man tells him he cannot save his friends and sends Vanitas after them. Terra deciding to take revenge on Xehanort, he opens his heart to darkness.
File:Terra's_Darkness.png|Terra submits to the darkness during his final battle with Xehanort after the man tells him he cannot save his friends and sends Vanitas after them. Terra deciding to take revenge on Xehanort, he opens his heart to darkness.
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</gallery>


*<big><big><big><big>RIGHT!</big></big></big></big>
*<big><big><big><big>RIGHT!</big></big></big></big>
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<gallery>
File:Pizza Cut (Art).png|Artwork of the Pizza Cut Chakrams from the ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' Ultimania.
File:PizzaCutterArt.png|Artwork of the Pizza Cut Chakrams from the ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' Ultimania.
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Well, I think that's about it for now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it here, as I tend to think up more things during free time away from the Wiki as the day goes on. We could possibly devise a way to make the image templates more specific, or possibly come up with new ones when a situation arises that we do not currently have a template for. Again, this is just an idea that I've discussed to some other people before, and should be decided upon as a '''community'''. Thank you. This marks the longest forum I've ever written, so I feel pretty good right now.}}
Well, I think that's about it for now. If I think of anything else, I'll post it here, as I tend to think up more things during free time away from the Wiki as the day goes on. We could possibly devise a way to make the image templates more specific, or possibly come up with new ones when a situation arises that we do not currently have a template for. Again, this is just an idea that I've discussed to some other people before, and should be decided upon as a '''community'''. Thank you. This marks the longest forum I've ever written, so I feel pretty good right now.}}
==Discussion==
{{KrytenKoro|My replies:
#Renders are always preferred over all else. However, they should be unique, and should be contained in the infobox or gallery unless it is necessary for them to be in the article body.
#Official artwork is acceptable, but should be replaced by renders where possible.
#Screenshots should only be used for events, and only where the text or the renders cannot express the event. For example, we have an image of Vanitas "revealing" himself. Why? The only information contained in that image and caption is that Vanitas has Sora's head - that can be adequately expressed with the render and text. There is never any reason for a screenshot to be in the gallery - if it isn't necessary to illustrate a scene, it isn't necessary.
##EDIT: '''Just because the screenshot depicts an important scene ''does not mean'' that the screenshot itself is important.'''
#Captions for screenshots don't need to specify the game, because a correct caption should make the placement obvious by working with the text. The caption should not replicate the text, and should only be as detailed as necessary to pin it to the text.
#We should not use images to brighten up a page. We should use them when necessary. We're not going to get as frustrating as wikipedia, but there's still no reason to have each scene on the page. In general, images as an abstract concept are not necessary, least of all screenshots. Screenshots should basically be the last resort.
Just to make it absolutely clear to everyone here, before discussion sets in for real - WE DO NOT OWN THESE IMAGES. WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO THEM. IF THEY ARE NOT '''100%''' NECESSARY FOR AN ARTICLE, WE ARE ESSENTIALLY COMMITTING THEFT.
Yes, we are much more relaxed than wikipedia, and can get away with a lot more. That doesn't mean that we should try to push that limit.
EDIT: "Discussion" generally includes the first comment. There is no reason why it should be separated.
}}
{{TNE|time=23:07, May 9, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=I've seen the rule about the renders and I've known its existence for a long time. If we need to clear the confusion, then we need to relax the limit. If screens are going to be a last resort, then let us state that screens are going to be a last resort. Cut the excessive hours of talking. If the Manual of Style needs to be reformed where images are concerned, then let's all do it, given the influx of screens from BBS.}}

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